Not their target demographic.
July 24, 2013 2:14 PM Subscribe
So, Boston's KISS 108 FM decided to hold a Taylor Swift Biggest Fan Contest. But they cancelled it.
Because a creepy guy from 4chan was not their idea of good publicity, and KISS 108 is disappointed in the Internet.
Because a creepy guy from 4chan was not their idea of good publicity, and KISS 108 is disappointed in the Internet.
The last sentence of the article may be even funnier.
posted by weston at 2:17 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by weston at 2:17 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
They should have known he was trouble when he walked in.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:19 PM on July 24, 2013 [46 favorites]
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:19 PM on July 24, 2013 [46 favorites]
...Jacob? Jacob Clifton is that you?
posted by The Whelk at 2:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 2:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Keeping the internet safe for creepy old guys: 4Chan to the rescue!
posted by Mojojojo at 2:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by Mojojojo at 2:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
39 is creepy old man territory?
posted by 2bucksplus at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
posted by 2bucksplus at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
I been kinda following this since it the idea was posted on /b/ and made it to /r/4chan.
This is actually the second tswizzle contest they messed with. First was trying to get her to do a concert at a school for the deaf I think
posted by Ad hominem at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
This is actually the second tswizzle contest they messed with. First was trying to get her to do a concert at a school for the deaf I think
posted by Ad hominem at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
creepy is not merely a function of age. Back to the laboratory with you.
posted by boo_radley at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by boo_radley at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
(also I'm depressed with was a 4chan thing, I just thought some middle aged guy really liked Taylor Swift! That's a nicer thought, I'm choosing to believe that one instead.)
posted by The Whelk at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 2:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
Just choose the second place kid. I saw this and figured he would end up winning (when I saw it at first he was in 3rd). But I figured someone would be an adult and say "har har, but no. Second place wins".
posted by cashman at 2:26 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by cashman at 2:26 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
I guess they don't get their humor like I do...
posted by randomkeystrike at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by randomkeystrike at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
He actually really does like Taylor Swift though. They entered him in all these other contests, like Jonah Brothers and Selena Gomez as jokes and he is really bummed now.
I can't find screecaps of the original post to /b/ but it was supposedly to help Charles.
Charles /b/ verification
posted by Ad hominem at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I can't find screecaps of the original post to /b/ but it was supposedly to help Charles.
Charles /b/ verification
posted by Ad hominem at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
You know folks, it's bad enough when "old" people get stereotyped around here, but could we not use "old" as the obvious partner word for "creepy"? Hell, the guy's only 39.
posted by HuronBob at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [14 favorites]
posted by HuronBob at 2:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [14 favorites]
Now he will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be her boyfriend.
posted by jenkinsEar at 2:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
posted by jenkinsEar at 2:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
I know I shouldn't, but god I love 4chan.
posted by nevercalm at 2:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [9 favorites]
posted by nevercalm at 2:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [9 favorites]
Last year, a competition offering a school a chance to have Swift come and perform was won by a school for the deaf, thanks to 4chan.
I'm gasping for air I'm laughing so hard at this. I am a bad, bad, person.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [45 favorites]
I'm gasping for air I'm laughing so hard at this. I am a bad, bad, person.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [45 favorites]
What makes him "creepy," exactly? He's middle aged and a man?
posted by averageamateur at 2:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
posted by averageamateur at 2:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
I don't know about you,
but I think if he was 22
everything would be alright
they'd let him win too.
posted by maryr at 2:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
but I think if he was 22
everything would be alright
they'd let him win too.
posted by maryr at 2:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
posted by GuyZero at 2:41 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
posted by GuyZero at 2:41 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
Did he actually say he wanted to smell her hair? I'm a 29 year old man who was literally just listening to Taylor Swift, so I'm willing to understand, but hair smelling is creepy.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 2:43 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 2:43 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
I don't see evidence of that anywhere, or any evidence that Charles had any active role in this scheme?
posted by averageamateur at 2:45 PM on July 24, 2013
I don't see evidence of that anywhere, or any evidence that Charles had any active role in this scheme?
posted by averageamateur at 2:45 PM on July 24, 2013
From the "cancelled" link:
"The competition was hijacked when a 4chan user appealed to members of the online community to help Charles – whom he describes as a friend – win the vote.
'My creepy 39-year-old friend named Charles would like to crush all those girls' dreams (and then sniff Taylor Swift's hair cos he's into that) by winning this instead… Help him crush the dreams of these girls and give him a chance to make a complete ass of himself by blatantly just sniffing her hair with the cameras rolling.'
So it's the guy's friend (assuming that isn't just a ruse and the 4chan person just grabbed a random picture) that said he was creepy.
posted by cashman at 2:46 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
"The competition was hijacked when a 4chan user appealed to members of the online community to help Charles – whom he describes as a friend – win the vote.
'My creepy 39-year-old friend named Charles would like to crush all those girls' dreams (and then sniff Taylor Swift's hair cos he's into that) by winning this instead… Help him crush the dreams of these girls and give him a chance to make a complete ass of himself by blatantly just sniffing her hair with the cameras rolling.'
So it's the guy's friend (assuming that isn't just a ruse and the 4chan person just grabbed a random picture) that said he was creepy.
posted by cashman at 2:46 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
If spambots were used: bad show, 4chan. If no spambots were used: bad show, radio station.
posted by Going To Maine at 2:46 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by Going To Maine at 2:46 PM on July 24, 2013
Sometimes you're the last to know you're creepy. Your friends need to tell YOU, not their other friends.
posted by janey47 at 2:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by janey47 at 2:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Creepy 40 year old here. I've heard her hair smells terrific.
posted by orme at 2:48 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
posted by orme at 2:48 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
Forget any creepiness or ages or whatever. This is just plain, old-fashioned, down-home culture-jamming. And I love it.
posted by DU at 2:51 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
posted by DU at 2:51 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
Or just plain old griefing.
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 2:53 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 2:53 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
She wears short skirts, he wears t-shirts.
She's a hit singer and he's on the /b/ boards.
Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find
That the web has been voting for you the whole time.
posted by maryr at 2:54 PM on July 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
She's a hit singer and he's on the /b/ boards.
Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find
That the web has been voting for you the whole time.
posted by maryr at 2:54 PM on July 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
Matty from "Matty in the Morning" on Kiss 108 is kind of a creepy old guy himself, and he's allowed to all the concerts.
posted by xingcat at 2:56 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by xingcat at 2:56 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
What makes him "creepy," exactly? He's middle aged and a man?
and he's on 4chan.
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 2:57 PM on July 24, 2013 [13 favorites]
and he's on 4chan.
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 2:57 PM on July 24, 2013 [13 favorites]
oh... hello, quonsar.
posted by boo_radley at 2:58 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by boo_radley at 2:58 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
If they didn't want over-18s to enter (and maybe win), they should have restricted the contest.
posted by jb at 2:58 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by jb at 2:58 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
His twitter: @cgz79
Seems to be the same dude from: the verification post to /b/
I dunno, whatever, its 4chan. Guy could be John Mayer for all we know.
posted by Ad hominem at 3:09 PM on July 24, 2013
Seems to be the same dude from: the verification post to /b/
I dunno, whatever, its 4chan. Guy could be John Mayer for all we know.
posted by Ad hominem at 3:09 PM on July 24, 2013
- Forget any creepiness or ages or whatever. This is just plain, old-fashioned, down-home culture-jamming. And I love it.
- Or just plain old griefing.
This is a pretty low bar for both culture jamming AND griefing. On the first count, they just stuffed an online ballot box for the least likely candidate to win. On the second, what are you, a teenage girl*?
* See, only a teenage girl would really be upset by some old, (possibly/kind of) weird dude winning
posted by filthy light thief at 3:10 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
- Or just plain old griefing.
This is a pretty low bar for both culture jamming AND griefing. On the first count, they just stuffed an online ballot box for the least likely candidate to win. On the second, what are you, a teenage girl*?
* See, only a teenage girl would really be upset by some old, (possibly/kind of) weird dude winning
posted by filthy light thief at 3:10 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Before this goes down the "creep" hole any further -
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
Really, dude? So if you said you wanted to "rob a bank" we can safely say your a bank robber?
Hair smelling sounds like a kink, and last I checked everyone has their thing as to what floats their boat. Labeling anybodys "thing" derogatorily sets up boundaries which isn't exactly any kind of noble venture any person or society should take part in.
"Creepy" is supposed to be used for anyone who transgresses social and personal boundaries. But let's be honest, the word is usually reserved for guys for any number of reasons.
BUT, is this guy really "creepy"? Apparently he doesn't seem to have a problem with that label, and it sounds like what he is intending to do will fall into creep territory.
All in all I don't really care, but I think some people should really give a thought about how that word is used.
what are you, a teenage girl*
What are you, an idiot who thinks he can mind read? Or just bad at plain reading?
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 3:15 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
Really, dude? So if you said you wanted to "rob a bank" we can safely say your a bank robber?
Hair smelling sounds like a kink, and last I checked everyone has their thing as to what floats their boat. Labeling anybodys "thing" derogatorily sets up boundaries which isn't exactly any kind of noble venture any person or society should take part in.
"Creepy" is supposed to be used for anyone who transgresses social and personal boundaries. But let's be honest, the word is usually reserved for guys for any number of reasons.
BUT, is this guy really "creepy"? Apparently he doesn't seem to have a problem with that label, and it sounds like what he is intending to do will fall into creep territory.
All in all I don't really care, but I think some people should really give a thought about how that word is used.
what are you, a teenage girl*
What are you, an idiot who thinks he can mind read? Or just bad at plain reading?
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 3:15 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Just choose the second place kid
Is there maybe some legal reason that would stop the radio station from doing this?
posted by pibeandres at 3:21 PM on July 24, 2013
Is there maybe some legal reason that would stop the radio station from doing this?
posted by pibeandres at 3:21 PM on July 24, 2013
It's not age, it's difference. This is Science!
He's 39. The official lowest age he's allowed is 39/2 +7, call it 26 to be generous.
Swift is, apparently, 23.
Q.E.D, we're in creepville, population Charles.
posted by bonehead at 3:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [24 favorites]
He's 39. The official lowest age he's allowed is 39/2 +7, call it 26 to be generous.
Swift is, apparently, 23.
Q.E.D, we're in creepville, population Charles.
posted by bonehead at 3:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [24 favorites]
Rocket Surgeon: "Before this goes down the "creep" hole any further -
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
Really, dude? So if you said you wanted to "rob a bank" we can safely say your a bank robber?"
If I come over to your house, and see that you have a map on the wall of a bank, with the times of the armored car delivery schedule. And your credit card statement includes ski-masks. And in the closet is a rounded bag with a $ sign on it. And your internet history is bank-robbery forums.
Then, yeah... lets call a spade a spade.
posted by wcfields at 3:24 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.
Really, dude? So if you said you wanted to "rob a bank" we can safely say your a bank robber?"
If I come over to your house, and see that you have a map on the wall of a bank, with the times of the armored car delivery schedule. And your credit card statement includes ski-masks. And in the closet is a rounded bag with a $ sign on it. And your internet history is bank-robbery forums.
Then, yeah... lets call a spade a spade.
posted by wcfields at 3:24 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
His tweet
Please help me meet Taylor Swift. Also, this is not a joke. Thank you.
Please Read The Important Message Below
I'm a 39 year old man and I love Taylor so much and don't care that both adults and children mock me for it. But I feel 22 if that helps.#ad
I don't think he is a creep, I think he is a twitter goofball and the whole thing got out of hand when 4chan stepped in.
posted by Ad hominem at 3:26 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
Please help me meet Taylor Swift. Also, this is not a joke. Thank you.
Please Read The Important Message Below
I'm a 39 year old man and I love Taylor so much and don't care that both adults and children mock me for it. But I feel 22 if that helps.#ad
I don't think he is a creep, I think he is a twitter goofball and the whole thing got out of hand when 4chan stepped in.
posted by Ad hominem at 3:26 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
Then, yeah... lets call a spade a spade.
You can read the rest of my comment if that'll help you figure things out.
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 3:27 PM on July 24, 2013
You can read the rest of my comment if that'll help you figure things out.
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 3:27 PM on July 24, 2013
This may have denied Taylor Swift a chance to meet the fan of her dreams.
posted by Ice Cream Socialist at 3:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by Ice Cream Socialist at 3:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
The first few comments in the Daily Caller have their own creep value.
posted by Mario Speedwagon at 3:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Mario Speedwagon at 3:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
The station's definition of "compromised" appears to be "we don't like the winner". Which strikes me as an ungood precedent.
posted by Justinian at 3:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by Justinian at 3:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Bonehead, it's simpler than that. Age difference? no matter. Hair smelling? forget all that.
All we need to say is "He wants to meet Taylor Swift."
That's q. e. fuckin d. for ya!
posted by janey47 at 3:39 PM on July 24, 2013
All we need to say is "He wants to meet Taylor Swift."
That's q. e. fuckin d. for ya!
posted by janey47 at 3:39 PM on July 24, 2013
Yo Taylor, I’m really happy for you…I’ma let you finish. But SNOOOOOOORRRRTTT!!!
posted by pyramid termite at 3:46 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by pyramid termite at 3:46 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
In an "important announcement," the station expresses its disappointment in the Internet.
HELLO YOU MUST BE NEW HERE
posted by louche mustachio at 3:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [20 favorites]
HELLO YOU MUST BE NEW HERE
posted by louche mustachio at 3:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [20 favorites]
This is a pretty low bar for both culture jamming AND griefing. On the first count, they just stuffed an online ballot box for the least likely candidate to win.
Waiting for an explanation about what makes that a "low bar". It's pop culture. It got jammed.
posted by DU at 3:54 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Waiting for an explanation about what makes that a "low bar". It's pop culture. It got jammed.
posted by DU at 3:54 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Oh, wait, you have GRAPHS? Oh that's a different story then. That makes it a scientific fact.
posted by janey47 at 3:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by janey47 at 3:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Rocket Surgeon: "Then, yeah... lets call a spade a spade.
You can read the rest of my comment if that'll help you figure things out."
Yeah, I did, and it reads creep apologist.
posted by wcfields at 3:57 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
You can read the rest of my comment if that'll help you figure things out."
Yeah, I did, and it reads creep apologist.
posted by wcfields at 3:57 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
So if you said you wanted to "rob a bank" we can safely say your a bank robber?
This is an incredibly astute analogy that I'm certain will convince the station to reinstate the results.
Which strikes me as an ungood precedent.
Agreed. How can we ever again trust this FM radio station to adjudicate matters of consequence?
posted by cribcage at 3:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
This is an incredibly astute analogy that I'm certain will convince the station to reinstate the results.
Which strikes me as an ungood precedent.
Agreed. How can we ever again trust this FM radio station to adjudicate matters of consequence?
posted by cribcage at 3:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
Yea from what I read the whole idea was to have him win just so he could creep her out, not because he was a fan. That's creepy. That doesn't mean actual 39 year old fans of Taylor are creepy. I'm 35 and while I wouldn't say I'm a fan, I have respect for her because she plays and writes her own stuff and seems to do what she loves. And I like some of her songs and am not embarrassed about that. They're easy to learn on guitar.
posted by sweetkid at 4:06 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by sweetkid at 4:06 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Ad hominem: “I dunno, whatever, its 4chan. Guy could be John Mayer for all we know.”
Which would make him very, very creepy.
posted by koeselitz at 4:14 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Which would make him very, very creepy.
posted by koeselitz at 4:14 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
So it's the guy's friend (assuming that isn't just a ruse and the 4chan person just grabbed a random picture) that said he was creepy.
A BOLD ASSUMPTION!
posted by mr_roboto at 4:17 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
A BOLD ASSUMPTION!
posted by mr_roboto at 4:17 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I just hope that people look to sources other than /b/ posts before making judgements on my character.
posted by ckape at 4:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by ckape at 4:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Team,
I have just completed a forensic analysis and a preliminary profile based on all the evidence I have gathered.
In my expert opinion this is what happened:
Twitter user @CGZ79, also known as Charles Z, in an effort to get retweets and generate lulz, submits his initial "tweet" to the twitter service.
In this tweet he says "Please help me meet Taylor Swift. Also, this is not a joke. Thank you."
Unsub 1, hereafter known as Anon, who is working in conjunction with Charles Z or is Charles Z himself, decides to post a message to the internet message board known as 4chan.
Anon, due to a rudimentary knowledge of psychology, low cunning, and familiarity with 4chan, decides to post the request in terms the average 4chan user, hereafter known as /b/ros will understand.
Anon promises Charles Z will smell Ms Swift's hair on camera.
The /b/ros, thus called to action, decide to join in on the scheme.
A screenshot is posted to another internet message board commonly known as /r/4chan. In response, users on /r/4chan make jokes about spaghetti and how beta Anon is, but agree to join in.
Since nobody actually cared about the contest to begin with, Charles Z easily wins.
There is only one question that still haunts me, Then who was phone?
posted by Ad hominem at 4:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
I have just completed a forensic analysis and a preliminary profile based on all the evidence I have gathered.
In my expert opinion this is what happened:
Twitter user @CGZ79, also known as Charles Z, in an effort to get retweets and generate lulz, submits his initial "tweet" to the twitter service.
In this tweet he says "Please help me meet Taylor Swift. Also, this is not a joke. Thank you."
Unsub 1, hereafter known as Anon, who is working in conjunction with Charles Z or is Charles Z himself, decides to post a message to the internet message board known as 4chan.
Anon, due to a rudimentary knowledge of psychology, low cunning, and familiarity with 4chan, decides to post the request in terms the average 4chan user, hereafter known as /b/ros will understand.
Anon promises Charles Z will smell Ms Swift's hair on camera.
The /b/ros, thus called to action, decide to join in on the scheme.
A screenshot is posted to another internet message board commonly known as /r/4chan. In response, users on /r/4chan make jokes about spaghetti and how beta Anon is, but agree to join in.
Since nobody actually cared about the contest to begin with, Charles Z easily wins.
There is only one question that still haunts me, Then who was phone?
posted by Ad hominem at 4:29 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
What I wouldn't give to have Peter Thomas read that aloud.
posted by cashman at 4:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by cashman at 4:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
As a consolation prize, he was given the option of talking to his friends, who will then talk to Taylor Swift's friends, who will then talk to her.
posted by obscure simpsons reference at 4:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [21 favorites]
posted by obscure simpsons reference at 4:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [21 favorites]
I remember the one from last year where Pitbull did actually go to Alaska. Fair play.
posted by Damienmce at 4:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by Damienmce at 4:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
I guess I'm still not clear on whether he really is a fan or not, and I admit I am hugely jaded about marketing, but... isn't the whole point of these kinds of contests to get as many people as possible tweeting about "their" contestant and clicking (and clicking and clicking) on Clear Channel websites and talking about Taylor Swift? Unless there's proof that bots were used, it seems like the Powers That Be could have looked at this mundane PR campaign an enormous success and just given this guy his 5-second no-sniffing-allowed photo op. She does thousands of photo ops -- they can't ALL be with adorable non-creepy teenage girls, no?
Heck, she could've toured the talk show circuit on this for a week, just showing what a good, fun-loving sport she is and how grateful she is for every single one of her fans. Oh, and by the way, Jimmy/Jay/Dave/Ellen, did you happen to know that her third delicious-smelling fragrance just came out in stores a few weeks ago?? [insert host's dumb, innocuous, pre-planned joke about hair]
I dunno. He met the stated eligibility criteria (if he was a fan, that is). I suppose I'm just not seeing how, objectively, they can argue that this is any different from every resident of Arkansas rallying to the phones for Kris Allen over Adam Lambert on "American Idol." (And really, how would ANYONE win this contest without having a huge network of support on social media?)
posted by argonauta at 4:36 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Heck, she could've toured the talk show circuit on this for a week, just showing what a good, fun-loving sport she is and how grateful she is for every single one of her fans. Oh, and by the way, Jimmy/Jay/Dave/Ellen, did you happen to know that her third delicious-smelling fragrance just came out in stores a few weeks ago?? [insert host's dumb, innocuous, pre-planned joke about hair]
I dunno. He met the stated eligibility criteria (if he was a fan, that is). I suppose I'm just not seeing how, objectively, they can argue that this is any different from every resident of Arkansas rallying to the phones for Kris Allen over Adam Lambert on "American Idol." (And really, how would ANYONE win this contest without having a huge network of support on social media?)
posted by argonauta at 4:36 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I love Taylor and I'm 41 and I don't care if 4chan knows it.
posted by colie at 4:38 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by colie at 4:38 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
cribcage: "Which strikes me as an ungood precedent.
Agreed. How can we ever again trust this FM radio station to adjudicate matters of consequence?"
Right -- they should have just given him the elephant.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Agreed. How can we ever again trust this FM radio station to adjudicate matters of consequence?"
Right -- they should have just given him the elephant.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
The hair on her head? Yeah, that's creepy.
posted by dobbs at 4:42 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by dobbs at 4:42 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Maybe the whole thing was a set up by Taylor Swift so that she could mess with Boston.
posted by ckape at 4:43 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by ckape at 4:43 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I've never wanted to smell Taylor Swift's hair until today.
I confess I don't like the label "creep" but yeah if I had a chance to sniff her hair, I would not sniff it without first telling her how good it looks and asking what she uses and maybe asking what it smells like. And then she might say go ahead and sniff. Then if she let me sniff it, it wouldn't be creepy -- until my tears of joy.
posted by surplus at 4:44 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I confess I don't like the label "creep" but yeah if I had a chance to sniff her hair, I would not sniff it without first telling her how good it looks and asking what she uses and maybe asking what it smells like. And then she might say go ahead and sniff. Then if she let me sniff it, it wouldn't be creepy -- until my tears of joy.
posted by surplus at 4:44 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
When I told my wife about this, she initially accused me of being Charles(because I love Taylor Swift), but when I convinced her that it wasn't me, we agreed that her hair probably smells great.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 4:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 4:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
She does thousands of photo ops -- they can't ALL be with adorable non-creepy teenage girls, no?
I'll admit, it would almost certainly not have been the creepiest photo op ever. Citation.
Maybe the whole thing was a set up by Taylor Swift so that she could mess with Boston.
She recently moved to this area, and I'm already hearing stories about how friendly, warm, and down-to-earth she is. This contrasts with, for instance, the less neighborly stories you'd hear about Roger Clemens.
posted by cribcage at 4:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I'll admit, it would almost certainly not have been the creepiest photo op ever. Citation.
Maybe the whole thing was a set up by Taylor Swift so that she could mess with Boston.
She recently moved to this area, and I'm already hearing stories about how friendly, warm, and down-to-earth she is. This contrasts with, for instance, the less neighborly stories you'd hear about Roger Clemens.
posted by cribcage at 4:47 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
If Taylor Swift let Charles smell her hair, she would be Taylor Snift.
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed.
posted by Phssthpok at 4:49 PM on July 24, 2013 [18 favorites]
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed.
posted by Phssthpok at 4:49 PM on July 24, 2013 [18 favorites]
The way I work is that I get inside the mind of the subject to recreate the scene. I have determined that Ms Swift's hair smells like Jojoba and vanilla.
It will be in my full report
posted by Ad hominem at 4:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
It will be in my full report
posted by Ad hominem at 4:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
This guy is a friend of a friend. He's not a 4chan guy, they just picked up the ball and ran with it. From my interactions with him on social media, he's smart and funny and my understanding is that he just entered for fun, but enough of his friends shared the link that it went off the rails.
GQ talks to him here.
posted by padraigin at 4:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
GQ talks to him here.
posted by padraigin at 4:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
Yeah, I did, and it reads creep apologist.
posted by wcfields
YEAH, GOOD ONE! WAS IT THE PART WHERE I SAID HE IS A CREEP THAT MAKES ME AN APOLOGIST?!
BASIC READING COMPREHENSION AND GOTCHA FAIL!!!
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 4:53 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by wcfields
YEAH, GOOD ONE! WAS IT THE PART WHERE I SAID HE IS A CREEP THAT MAKES ME AN APOLOGIST?!
BASIC READING COMPREHENSION AND GOTCHA FAIL!!!
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 4:53 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
GQ talks to him here.
That's great. You start reading and it's like, wow, this guy just got swept up into all this and he seems normal enough.
It's like Aziz Ansari's bit about R. Kelly. There's an obvious answer to the whole hair sniffing thing, after all this has gone down, and
posted by cashman at 5:04 PM on July 24, 2013 [8 favorites]
That's great. You start reading and it's like, wow, this guy just got swept up into all this and he seems normal enough.
"I thought it would be fun. Seriously. That's it. And it was fun."And then you keep reading and the more he says, the more he just launches himself right into creep territory.
It's like Aziz Ansari's bit about R. Kelly. There's an obvious answer to the whole hair sniffing thing, after all this has gone down, and
"I never said I wanted to sniff it. But I'm not going to lie, if I get to meet her, I may lean in for a whiff. I'd be crazy not to at this point. The people of the Internet demand it, and who am I to cheat them?"Is the wrong answer.
"At one point the leaderboard was 50 happy 13-year-old girls, then there's a picture of me, hungover, in my bathroom. That's good stuff."Good 'n creepy. Creepy, inappropriate, weird, whatever term you want to use. Bottom line is, no dude, this is not cute.
posted by cashman at 5:04 PM on July 24, 2013 [8 favorites]
BASIC READING COMPREHENSION AND GOTCHA FAIL!!!
The caps would have seemed hyperbolic, but then you put in three exclamation marks and favorited your own comment so I can tell you're serious.
posted by cribcage at 5:11 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
The caps would have seemed hyperbolic, but then you put in three exclamation marks and favorited your own comment so I can tell you're serious.
posted by cribcage at 5:11 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
This guy is a friend of a friend
Can you confirm he has a history of smelling people's hair?
I just want to get to the truth here.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:12 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Can you confirm he has a history of smelling people's hair?
I just want to get to the truth here.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:12 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
but then you put in three exclamation marks and favorited your own comment so I can tell you're serious.
THAT FOR REALZ MEANS SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SPURIOUS I MEAN SERIOUS CONVERSATION!!!
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 5:14 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
THAT FOR REALZ MEANS SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SPURIOUS I MEAN SERIOUS CONVERSATION!!!
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 5:14 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Rocket Surgeon, you are too close to this one. I'm ordering a psych evaluation. I'm going to need your badge and service weapon.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
posted by Ad hominem at 5:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
"Never trust anybody over 30." was just dynamite advice in my 20s. And it was largely my apology for not getting my bachelor's degree, until well into my '50s. But if you live long enough, despite your best efforts to the contrary, you learn that "Wrinkles ain't wrong, but stupid usually is."
posted by paulsc at 5:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by paulsc at 5:21 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Lots of creepy old dudes here. I'm only 30 and like a few Taylor Swift songs, but I wouldn't let myself get near her. What's wrong with not wanting a creepy old dude to be alone with a starlet?
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 5:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 5:32 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Hair smelling sounds like a kink, and last I checked everyone has their thing as to what floats their boat. Labeling anybodys "thing" derogatorily sets up boundaries which isn't exactly any kind of noble venture any person or society should take part in.
"Creepy" is supposed to be used for anyone who transgresses social and personal boundaries. But let's be honest, the word is usually reserved for guys for any number of reasons.
Sure, hair smelling could be a kink. And a fine kink at that. Everybody has kinks, kinks are great! Three cheers for kinks!
Physically involving someone else in your kink -- mild or not -- without their consent is creepy. For instance, it would be creepy if your kink was hair smelling, and you used a meet-a-fan promotion offered by a major celebrity to "blatantly just sniff her hair with the cameras rolling", when what she consented to was normal meet-a-fan behaviour, like shaking hands, chatting and taking a picture. One could even say it transgresses social and personal boundaries.
You seem awfully invested in defending someone's right to involve other people in their private kink without their consent. I hope you're just someone who enjoys the totally appropriate between consenting adults activity of hair sniffing (or something analogous) who is overlooking the whole consent angle on this.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 5:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [21 favorites]
"Creepy" is supposed to be used for anyone who transgresses social and personal boundaries. But let's be honest, the word is usually reserved for guys for any number of reasons.
Sure, hair smelling could be a kink. And a fine kink at that. Everybody has kinks, kinks are great! Three cheers for kinks!
Physically involving someone else in your kink -- mild or not -- without their consent is creepy. For instance, it would be creepy if your kink was hair smelling, and you used a meet-a-fan promotion offered by a major celebrity to "blatantly just sniff her hair with the cameras rolling", when what she consented to was normal meet-a-fan behaviour, like shaking hands, chatting and taking a picture. One could even say it transgresses social and personal boundaries.
You seem awfully invested in defending someone's right to involve other people in their private kink without their consent. I hope you're just someone who enjoys the totally appropriate between consenting adults activity of hair sniffing (or something analogous) who is overlooking the whole consent angle on this.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 5:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [21 favorites]
Hair smelling sounds like a kink, and last I checked everyone has their thing as to what floats their boat. Labeling anybodys "thing" derogatorily sets up boundaries which isn't exactly any kind of noble venture any person or society should take part in.
i am absolutely ok with labeling anyone a creep who non-consensually indulges in their fetish with another person, especially a person where their job is to be nice and welcoming. it sounds like that was maybe not part of his original intent, but the idea that it's a fetish so we can't say boo about it is wrong. we should absolutely label those people who can't figure out the difference between willing participants and women just existing in public. flashers, downblouse filmers, and people who wipe their ejaculate on subway poles are also just indulging a fetish, still creepsters.
posted by nadawi at 5:36 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
i am absolutely ok with labeling anyone a creep who non-consensually indulges in their fetish with another person, especially a person where their job is to be nice and welcoming. it sounds like that was maybe not part of his original intent, but the idea that it's a fetish so we can't say boo about it is wrong. we should absolutely label those people who can't figure out the difference between willing participants and women just existing in public. flashers, downblouse filmers, and people who wipe their ejaculate on subway poles are also just indulging a fetish, still creepsters.
posted by nadawi at 5:36 PM on July 24, 2013 [12 favorites]
People, if you read wtf I wrote I clearly say he is a creep for very reason you keep claiming - the whole transgressing boundaries thing. You know, like I wrote? Where is the disconnect here?
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 5:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by Rocket Surgeon at 5:40 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
We don't know he has some hair smelling fetish.
What if it isn't a fetish at all? Are you saying nobody can smell anyone without their consent for any reason?
I'm not making up scenarios where it is ok to smell people. But sometimes I smell them whether I want to or not.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:43 PM on July 24, 2013
What if it isn't a fetish at all? Are you saying nobody can smell anyone without their consent for any reason?
I'm not making up scenarios where it is ok to smell people. But sometimes I smell them whether I want to or not.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:43 PM on July 24, 2013
Mod note: Rocket Surgeon, may be time to give this thread a breather for a bit?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:50 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Mod note: Also please don't bring decontextualized Reddit comments over here, thanks.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:56 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:56 PM on July 24, 2013
I was looking for the Bad Lip Reading creeper-fied Swift video for this thread, but youtube took it down! Apparently Swift was un-amused. Here's a mirror.
Don't worry. Ima smell yer hair, gurl.
posted by dgaicun at 5:56 PM on July 24, 2013
Don't worry. Ima smell yer hair, gurl.
posted by dgaicun at 5:56 PM on July 24, 2013
Basically, its a bad idea to put somebody in a position where she might be close up with a stalker or somebody who tries to harass her her, and her managment needs to manage those risks.
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 5:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 5:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
You know what. He shouldn't be making any overt attempt to smell her at all. I won an argument against myself.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:00 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by Ad hominem at 6:00 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Consensual sniffing is okay though.
posted by elizardbits at 6:03 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by elizardbits at 6:03 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
like i bet tom hardy smells really good
posted by elizardbits at 6:04 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by elizardbits at 6:04 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Except in cases when consensual sniffing causes a hostile environment. Like in the workplace I wouldn't want people engaging in consensual sniffing in the next cube over.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:06 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by Ad hominem at 6:06 PM on July 24, 2013
Metafilter: When consensual sniffing causes a hostile environment.
posted by jonp72 at 6:07 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
posted by jonp72 at 6:07 PM on July 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
according to Know Your Meme, they're also targeting Selena Gomez, Jonas Brothers, and One Direction.
seems a bit of low-hanging fruit for 4chan, honestly
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 6:14 PM on July 24, 2013
seems a bit of low-hanging fruit for 4chan, honestly
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 6:14 PM on July 24, 2013
Part of anonymous' operation #justice4charles. Hey, sometimes they ddos banks and leak sensitive documents sometimes they try to get some old guy to smell random people.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:16 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by Ad hominem at 6:16 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
the best version of this ever was sending pitbull to alaska. he went, took the guy that set up the plan, and seemingly had a blast.
taylor swift donating to the school of the deaf was cool, but it would have been cooler if she went. deaf kids like music and celebrities too!
posted by nadawi at 6:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
taylor swift donating to the school of the deaf was cool, but it would have been cooler if she went. deaf kids like music and celebrities too!
posted by nadawi at 6:20 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
Honestly, I feel sorry for all the other fans. But if the radio station had just limited the contest to teenage girls in the first place this wouldn't have happened, so fie on them.
posted by Kevin Street at 6:24 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by Kevin Street at 6:24 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
According to the GQ article he never had any interest in smelling her hair. He wanted to win the contest and TEH INTERNETZ jumped in FOR TEH LULZ and made up a weird rationale to make it seem funnier. Metafilter, I am disappoint.
posted by Joe in Australia at 6:27 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Joe in Australia at 6:27 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Its all in my report Joe. The brass never reads the report.
I'm on to a new case though. Some guy on reddit says he found a kitten on the street and I know he is lying.I know it in my bones.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
I'm on to a new case though. Some guy on reddit says he found a kitten on the street and I know he is lying.I know it in my bones.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
According to the GQ article he never had any interest in smelling her hair.
Yeah but then he ruined it with his response saying "well if random people on the internet want me to sniff her, who am I to say no?!"
posted by cashman at 6:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Yeah but then he ruined it with his response saying "well if random people on the internet want me to sniff her, who am I to say no?!"
posted by cashman at 6:33 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
This is just like when Howard Stern's fans made "Hank the Angry Dwarf" as the winner in People Mag's "Sexiest Man Alive" as voted by the public roughly 20 years ago.
I think they went with Ben Affleck instead.
posted by Renoroc at 6:44 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I think they went with Ben Affleck instead.
posted by Renoroc at 6:44 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
If Taylor Swift let Charles smell her hair, she would be Taylor Snift.
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed.
And if she did same day alterations she would be Tailor Swift.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 7:12 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed.
And if she did same day alterations she would be Tailor Swift.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 7:12 PM on July 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
On the one hand, I used to like Taylor Swift, but her whole "I'm so sweet and innocent" facade combined with her Mean Girl behavior has made me angry and I no longer like her.
On the other hand, I hate old creepy dudes who insist on trolling on girls young enough to be their kids. And the more I see here, the more I am convinced this dude is creepin' if he can.
I just don't know who to root for in this scenario.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:15 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
On the other hand, I hate old creepy dudes who insist on trolling on girls young enough to be their kids. And the more I see here, the more I am convinced this dude is creepin' if he can.
I just don't know who to root for in this scenario.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:15 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I hate old creepy dudes who insist on trolling on girls young enough to be their kids.
HE'S ONLY THIRTY NINE! And he really did want to meet Taylor Swift!
ruined it with his response saying "well if random people on the internet want me to sniff her, who am I to say no?!"
It's only a thing because we're making it a thing.
Mind you, even I am now starting to wonder if there is something special about her hair. Like, perhaps touching it cures heartbreak and makes you younger, or it smells of butterscotch and unicorn tears, or it's made out of solidified plasma because she's the apotheosis of sunshine.
posted by Joe in Australia at 7:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
HE'S ONLY THIRTY NINE! And he really did want to meet Taylor Swift!
ruined it with his response saying "well if random people on the internet want me to sniff her, who am I to say no?!"
It's only a thing because we're making it a thing.
Mind you, even I am now starting to wonder if there is something special about her hair. Like, perhaps touching it cures heartbreak and makes you younger, or it smells of butterscotch and unicorn tears, or it's made out of solidified plasma because she's the apotheosis of sunshine.
posted by Joe in Australia at 7:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
elizardbits: "Consensual sniffing is okay though."
You say that, but how many dates does it take before you're comfortable hearing, "I would like to smell your hair. Maybe taste it a little, if that's ok with you."?
posted by boo_radley at 7:25 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
You say that, but how many dates does it take before you're comfortable hearing, "I would like to smell your hair. Maybe taste it a little, if that's ok with you."?
posted by boo_radley at 7:25 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Is this something I would need Smell-o-Vision to understand?
posted by No-sword at 7:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by No-sword at 7:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Mind you, even I am now starting to wonder if there is something special about her hair. Like, perhaps touching it cures heartbreak and makes you younger, or it smells of butterscotch and unicorn tears, or it's made out of solidified plasma because she's the apotheosis of sunshine.
I think every part of Taylor Swift is like that.
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 7:35 PM on July 24, 2013
I feel like I'm really missing something here. The prize is two concert tickets and two passes to the photo op at the venue, with a total value of $179. This kind of VIP package is typically just something that's sold through Ticketmaster (or given away for publicity purposes), and the stars stand for a heavily-supervised five seconds with anyone who pays for it or camps out for it or wins it, whether they're 15 or 95, and whether they have R-rated thoughts about the star or just really admire his or her songwriting, and whether or not they inhale deeply when given the chance. It'd be like this or this (though probably not for 15 hours straight at this particular show).
I'm glad to see bright lights shining on creepiness, shitty Reddit/4chan behavior, and the objectification of female performers, but the cancellation of this contest and the subsequent media focus on it somehow just rubs me the wrong way, despite (or maybe because of) all of the legitimate work that needs to be done on all those issues. Maybe it's just my skepticism about the way Taylor has worked the fame machine to date, coupled with a general wariness of how Clear Channel makes these decisions (i.e., not as a force of goodness and light). Something feels insincere, I guess, and I wonder if the brouhaha isn't just feeding the proverbial trolls.
posted by argonauta at 7:37 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I'm glad to see bright lights shining on creepiness, shitty Reddit/4chan behavior, and the objectification of female performers, but the cancellation of this contest and the subsequent media focus on it somehow just rubs me the wrong way, despite (or maybe because of) all of the legitimate work that needs to be done on all those issues. Maybe it's just my skepticism about the way Taylor has worked the fame machine to date, coupled with a general wariness of how Clear Channel makes these decisions (i.e., not as a force of goodness and light). Something feels insincere, I guess, and I wonder if the brouhaha isn't just feeding the proverbial trolls.
posted by argonauta at 7:37 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
He should just give her a banjo, anonymously.
posted by jenkinsEar at 7:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
posted by jenkinsEar at 7:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [16 favorites]
I wish there was a crazy AskMe question about the ethics of sniffing.
posted by Area Man at 8:09 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by Area Man at 8:09 PM on July 24, 2013
I am not a Taylor Swift fan, but is it creepy if I sniff my own hair?
I may be over 40.
posted by chococat at 8:14 PM on July 24, 2013
I may be over 40.
posted by chococat at 8:14 PM on July 24, 2013
Everything you do over 40 is creepy.
Kill yourself.
posted by dgaicun at 8:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Kill yourself.
posted by dgaicun at 8:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Are you kidding? This is winning.
posted by jessamyn at 8:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by jessamyn at 8:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
He should just give her a banjo, anonymously.
I like the sentiment, but it's a less perfect form of banjo giving if you know the recipient might actually be able to play the banjo. She definitely appears with a six string banjo in the video for "Mean"* and she's in the Wikipedia category "American Banjoists" so I think that she can.
*I have a wealth of Taylor Swift facts at my disposal, but I went back and checked how many strings the banjo has just now. I'm not crazy.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 8:56 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I like the sentiment, but it's a less perfect form of banjo giving if you know the recipient might actually be able to play the banjo. She definitely appears with a six string banjo in the video for "Mean"* and she's in the Wikipedia category "American Banjoists" so I think that she can.
*I have a wealth of Taylor Swift facts at my disposal, but I went back and checked how many strings the banjo has just now. I'm not crazy.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 8:56 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I love that this has pretty much turned into an age-anxiety thread.
posted by the jam at 9:02 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by the jam at 9:02 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I'm a 38 year old woman. Am I an old creep, am I a year away from being an old creep, or am I safe because I'm a woman? Please advise.
posted by DrGirlfriend at 9:10 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by DrGirlfriend at 9:10 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I'm a 38 year old woman. Am I an old creep, am I a year away from being an old creep, or am I safe because I'm a woman? Please advise.
Are you going to enter a contest to molest One Direction?
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 9:14 PM on July 24, 2013 [9 favorites]
I'm 35 and I really like Taylor Swift and would love to meet her.
I have realized I am old enough now that I don't actually care whether people on the internet think I'm a creep or not.
girls young enough to be their kids
In his case, that would make him a 16 year old dad, which while hardly impossible is not usually what I think of when people talk about "young enough to be their kid". Her actual father is 61 for comparison (according to the internet).
posted by wildcrdj at 9:19 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I have realized I am old enough now that I don't actually care whether people on the internet think I'm a creep or not.
girls young enough to be their kids
In his case, that would make him a 16 year old dad, which while hardly impossible is not usually what I think of when people talk about "young enough to be their kid". Her actual father is 61 for comparison (according to the internet).
posted by wildcrdj at 9:19 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Just throwing this out there, her ex boyfriend John Mayer is 35.
She is like what 22? 23? that is almost the same age difference as between Megan Draper who is 26 and Don Draper who is 40. What is the consensus there, creepy?
posted by Ad hominem at 9:30 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
She is like what 22? 23? that is almost the same age difference as between Megan Draper who is 26 and Don Draper who is 40. What is the consensus there, creepy?
posted by Ad hominem at 9:30 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
It looks like the "creepy" tag came from the ever-helpful imps of 4chan, and KISS 108 took them at their word.
(Not that he couldn't be creepy anyway, I have no idea. But they presented him that way at the start.)
posted by Kevin Street at 9:35 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
(Not that he couldn't be creepy anyway, I have no idea. But they presented him that way at the start.)
posted by Kevin Street at 9:35 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
The current conspiracy theory is that they figured out people were cheating on his behalf and realized everyone else close to him must be cheating too.
I mean there were probably botnets voting for this guy, how can anyone be even close.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:43 PM on July 24, 2013
I mean there were probably botnets voting for this guy, how can anyone be even close.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:43 PM on July 24, 2013
The moral of the story is: Don't have internet voting contests.
Also don't listen to Taylor Swift. Unless you're a 13 year old girl in which case carry on.
posted by Justinian at 11:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Also don't listen to Taylor Swift. Unless you're a 13 year old girl in which case carry on.
posted by Justinian at 11:18 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Also don't listen to Taylor Swift. Unless you're a 13 year old girl in which case carry on.
We Are Never Getting Back Together, complete with proto-Flaming Lips video, is great and her first single is pretty sweet.
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 11:30 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
also for everyone feeling bad about their age Carly Rae Japsen was 28 when Call Me Maybe came out
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 11:39 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 11:39 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I guess I'm surprised the radio station would not be (?) opening themselves up to a lawsuit. IANAL, but is this a breach of contract?
posted by newdaddy at 3:23 AM on July 25, 2013
posted by newdaddy at 3:23 AM on July 25, 2013
GuyZero: His plan was to smell her hair. That's at least a little creepy.So, let me get this straight: he's creepy because he likes the scent of a woman's hair?
There's some serious justification for plain-old misandry going on here. I'm pretty damned sure every person in this thread has found a crush's hair to smell sexy.
posted by IAmBroom at 3:51 AM on July 25, 2013
You know who I bet smells really nice? Viggo Mortensen. He looks like the sort of guy who understands his own body chemistry and, at any given moment--except maybe right after a heavy workout and before a shower, but maybe even then, too--just has it perfect. Never too much cologne (which an adoring perfumist fan mixes for him for free), not too little. I don't have a crush on him or anything, I just get that feeling about him.
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:24 AM on July 25, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:24 AM on July 25, 2013 [5 favorites]
I guess I'm surprised the radio station would not be (?) opening themselves up to a lawsuit. IANAL, but is this a breach of contract?
Probably not. I would guess that there was some boilerplate in the contest rules that says they can cancel the contest for whatever reason they want.
posted by nooneyouknow at 5:31 AM on July 25, 2013
Probably not. I would guess that there was some boilerplate in the contest rules that says they can cancel the contest for whatever reason they want.
posted by nooneyouknow at 5:31 AM on July 25, 2013
Taylor Swift has involved me in non-consensually in her fetish for wealth and fame.
posted by srboisvert at 5:58 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by srboisvert at 5:58 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
There's some serious justification for plain-old misandry going on here.
Geez. Maybe radio stations and all the other organizations that run contests decided by online voting will finally cut that shit out, now that we know such "for the lulz" winners must suffer the slings and arrows of such outrageous misandry. Won't somebody think of the creeps?
posted by gobliiin at 5:59 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
Geez. Maybe radio stations and all the other organizations that run contests decided by online voting will finally cut that shit out, now that we know such "for the lulz" winners must suffer the slings and arrows of such outrageous misandry. Won't somebody think of the creeps?
posted by gobliiin at 5:59 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
On the one hand, I used to like Taylor Swift, but her whole "I'm so sweet and innocent" facade combined with her Mean Girl behavior has made me angry and I no longer like her.
On the other hand, I hate old creepy dudes who insist on trolling on girls young enough to be their kids. And the more I see here, the more I am convinced this dude is creepin' if he can.
I just don't know who to root for in this scenario.
Root for None Of The Above!
Just throwing this out there, her ex boyfriend John Mayer is 35.
Are saying John Mayer isn't creepy?
posted by kmz at 6:38 AM on July 25, 2013
On the other hand, I hate old creepy dudes who insist on trolling on girls young enough to be their kids. And the more I see here, the more I am convinced this dude is creepin' if he can.
I just don't know who to root for in this scenario.
Root for None Of The Above!
Just throwing this out there, her ex boyfriend John Mayer is 35.
Are saying John Mayer isn't creepy?
posted by kmz at 6:38 AM on July 25, 2013
She probably told him never to sniff her hair because misandry
posted by elizardbits at 6:41 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by elizardbits at 6:41 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
So, let me get this straight: he's creepy because he likes the scent of a woman's hair?
No, he's creepy because he planned to smell the hair of a woman he didn't know. That's always creepy. Smelling a person's hair is only appropriate if you are in a relationship with them.
posted by nooneyouknow at 7:02 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
No, he's creepy because he planned to smell the hair of a woman he didn't know. That's always creepy. Smelling a person's hair is only appropriate if you are in a relationship with them.
posted by nooneyouknow at 7:02 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
39 year old women who try to meet the male stars of twilight to bite them are also creepy. this isn't a gender thing (although you can't really ignore that a lot of boundary crossing seems to go from male to female, and not the other way around).
if a stranger came up to you on the subway and obviously sniffed your hair, are you telling me you wouldn't be creeped out? or lets say you're in a greeting line at church or a wedding, shaking hands, "oh it's so nice to see you", "glad you could make it", "we'll catch up inside", etc, and then someone you don't know pauses, leans in, and smells your hair - you're just going to laugh that off and not give it a second thought? not me. that shit would be creepy. and i say this as someone who has makeout sessions with my husband that includes about 75% smelling of hair and napes of necks.
i totally get that it didn't seem to be his original intent - but when the radio station and t. swift's people were looking at it, of course it was part of the decision making process. also, metafilter didn't invent the creep label for him, that came from the post. and, as much as those of us in our 30s might not like to hear it, to the typical t-swizzle superfan, 39 is old.
posted by nadawi at 7:07 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
if a stranger came up to you on the subway and obviously sniffed your hair, are you telling me you wouldn't be creeped out? or lets say you're in a greeting line at church or a wedding, shaking hands, "oh it's so nice to see you", "glad you could make it", "we'll catch up inside", etc, and then someone you don't know pauses, leans in, and smells your hair - you're just going to laugh that off and not give it a second thought? not me. that shit would be creepy. and i say this as someone who has makeout sessions with my husband that includes about 75% smelling of hair and napes of necks.
i totally get that it didn't seem to be his original intent - but when the radio station and t. swift's people were looking at it, of course it was part of the decision making process. also, metafilter didn't invent the creep label for him, that came from the post. and, as much as those of us in our 30s might not like to hear it, to the typical t-swizzle superfan, 39 is old.
posted by nadawi at 7:07 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
IAmBroom: "There's some serious justification for plain-old misandry going on here. I'm pretty damned sure every person in this thread has found a crush's hair to smell sexy."
Come on, man, this makes sense, right? People can find the smell of hair sexy. That's fine. But if a random person decided to announce publicly that she was going to force me to let her smell my hair by winning a contest so I would have to let her smell my hair, yeah, that'd be creepy, and I wouldn't let her. This is clearly not a gendered thing. It is objectively creepy.
And, for the record, this is not an academic exercise for me. There's a homeless lady who sometimes hangs out in the alley across the street from my house, and she has on several occasions insisted either that I allow her to smell my hair or that I smell her hair. "Hey dude - let me smell your hair," she'll say over and over again. Now, I'm a pretty liberal guy, and I know life on the street is tough, but I do not let her sniff my hair, and I do not sniff her hair, because I find this whole thing creepy.
So, yeah. Take it from me. Planning to non-consensually sniff someone's hair (or demanding that someone allow hair-sniffing) is indeed creepy, no matter how harmless it may be to accidentally end up smelling someone's hair.
posted by koeselitz at 7:10 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
Come on, man, this makes sense, right? People can find the smell of hair sexy. That's fine. But if a random person decided to announce publicly that she was going to force me to let her smell my hair by winning a contest so I would have to let her smell my hair, yeah, that'd be creepy, and I wouldn't let her. This is clearly not a gendered thing. It is objectively creepy.
And, for the record, this is not an academic exercise for me. There's a homeless lady who sometimes hangs out in the alley across the street from my house, and she has on several occasions insisted either that I allow her to smell my hair or that I smell her hair. "Hey dude - let me smell your hair," she'll say over and over again. Now, I'm a pretty liberal guy, and I know life on the street is tough, but I do not let her sniff my hair, and I do not sniff her hair, because I find this whole thing creepy.
So, yeah. Take it from me. Planning to non-consensually sniff someone's hair (or demanding that someone allow hair-sniffing) is indeed creepy, no matter how harmless it may be to accidentally end up smelling someone's hair.
posted by koeselitz at 7:10 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
I feel like the argument is pretty obvious and simple, and if somebody isn't already persuaded that the hair-sniffing is creepy, then he's coming from a different angle and you won't persuade him with your personal hair-sniffing anecdotes.
posted by cribcage at 7:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by cribcage at 7:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
What is it that some people so dislike about the term creep/creeper? Seems like every time that label comes up there's a debate about it.
posted by anti social order at 7:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by anti social order at 7:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
Story time!
Back in the 90s, when we were seniors in high school, a male friend of mine worked at a pizza joint. Let's call this male friend Bob.
One day, as Bob was making pizza, he heard the DJ say, "...and the seventh caller will be our winner!"
Bob didn't know what the winner would win, but everyone likes winning. So, he waited the amount of time one waits in order to be the seventh caller, and then he called, and then he was their winner.
"Congratulations! You've just won a chance to compete in a Backstreet Boys singing contest at Crossgates Mall! The top prize are front row seats for the BSB concert at Knickerbocker Arena!"
Now, Bob was not a Backstreet Boys fan. Very far from it. Very, very, very far from it. Very, very, very, very, very, very far from it. Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very far from it.
However, he had just won a contest. There was no backing out now.
So, on the day of the singing contest, Bob did what any sensible person would do. He got as drunk as humanly possible. You have never been this drunk. Neither had he.
And yet, there he was, at Crossgates Mall, drunk as a lord, seated onstage, surrounded by his fellow contestants, who were literally all 13-year-old girls.
The other contestants sang their hearts out. Each was sincere. Each was amateur. It was cute. People applauded politely for each little singer.
Then Bob showed up.
Grinning, he sang. He bleated "I Want It That Way" to hordes of confused people at Crossgates Mall. The semi-irony was that Bob was actually, normally, a very good singer, much better than your average 13-year-old girl. However, due to his inebriated state, he sounded more like a Tim Buckley record that had warped in the heat, played at the wrong speed.
Picture this: imagine your boss telling you something very important. If you do not pay attention to what he is saying, and if you do not respond well and on-point, you will be fired. Now, imagine that, in mid-monologue, your boss is obviously about to throw up. However, the change has happened so quickly, and the moment is so very serious, that you haven't had time to consciously react yet. You're just in a weird transitional moment, like you're in a chair about to fall over, where one second ago, you were taking very detailed mental notes on what your boss has been saying, but now everything is different, everything has changed, now you fear that a stream of vomit with the diameter of a pie plate is about to come out of your employer and hit you across the face.
The facial expression that you would wear in such a situation is the exact same facial expression as the audience collectively wore, as they politely applauded Bob's singing.
He got second place. First place went to a 13-year-old girl.
After the contest, two dudes in matching cowboy hats performed another BSB song. They were performing out of competition. You know, like how some movies do at Cannes.
posted by Sticherbeast at 7:29 AM on July 25, 2013 [7 favorites]
Back in the 90s, when we were seniors in high school, a male friend of mine worked at a pizza joint. Let's call this male friend Bob.
One day, as Bob was making pizza, he heard the DJ say, "...and the seventh caller will be our winner!"
Bob didn't know what the winner would win, but everyone likes winning. So, he waited the amount of time one waits in order to be the seventh caller, and then he called, and then he was their winner.
"Congratulations! You've just won a chance to compete in a Backstreet Boys singing contest at Crossgates Mall! The top prize are front row seats for the BSB concert at Knickerbocker Arena!"
Now, Bob was not a Backstreet Boys fan. Very far from it. Very, very, very far from it. Very, very, very, very, very, very far from it. Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very far from it.
However, he had just won a contest. There was no backing out now.
So, on the day of the singing contest, Bob did what any sensible person would do. He got as drunk as humanly possible. You have never been this drunk. Neither had he.
And yet, there he was, at Crossgates Mall, drunk as a lord, seated onstage, surrounded by his fellow contestants, who were literally all 13-year-old girls.
The other contestants sang their hearts out. Each was sincere. Each was amateur. It was cute. People applauded politely for each little singer.
Then Bob showed up.
Grinning, he sang. He bleated "I Want It That Way" to hordes of confused people at Crossgates Mall. The semi-irony was that Bob was actually, normally, a very good singer, much better than your average 13-year-old girl. However, due to his inebriated state, he sounded more like a Tim Buckley record that had warped in the heat, played at the wrong speed.
Picture this: imagine your boss telling you something very important. If you do not pay attention to what he is saying, and if you do not respond well and on-point, you will be fired. Now, imagine that, in mid-monologue, your boss is obviously about to throw up. However, the change has happened so quickly, and the moment is so very serious, that you haven't had time to consciously react yet. You're just in a weird transitional moment, like you're in a chair about to fall over, where one second ago, you were taking very detailed mental notes on what your boss has been saying, but now everything is different, everything has changed, now you fear that a stream of vomit with the diameter of a pie plate is about to come out of your employer and hit you across the face.
The facial expression that you would wear in such a situation is the exact same facial expression as the audience collectively wore, as they politely applauded Bob's singing.
He got second place. First place went to a 13-year-old girl.
After the contest, two dudes in matching cowboy hats performed another BSB song. They were performing out of competition. You know, like how some movies do at Cannes.
posted by Sticherbeast at 7:29 AM on July 25, 2013 [7 favorites]
"... her whole "I'm so sweet and innocent" facade combined with her Mean Girl behavior ..."
Plus don't forget her 5' 11" height and eyes like a squirrel. So very hot.
posted by colie at 7:30 AM on July 25, 2013
Plus don't forget her 5' 11" height and eyes like a squirrel. So very hot.
posted by colie at 7:30 AM on July 25, 2013
I mean if I ever found myself within sniffing distance of Beyonce I would lurk with intent, probably. But more in the sense that I would want to bask in the radiant glow of her beyoncium isotopes. Since I would also likely be weeping helplessly it is probable that I would be gently but firmly escorted from her glorious presence.
posted by elizardbits at 7:47 AM on July 25, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by elizardbits at 7:47 AM on July 25, 2013 [6 favorites]
if a stranger came up to you on the subway and obviously sniffed your hair, are you telling me you wouldn't be creeped out? [...]
i totally get that it didn't seem to be his original intent - but when the radio station and t. swift's people were looking at it, of course it was part of the decision making process.
I'd say the same thing about every aspect of (what appears to be) a meet-and-greet photo opportunity. If he made a big deal about hugging her it would be creepy. If he made a big deal about holding her hand it would be creepy. If he made a big deal about talking to her it would be creepy. It's in our heads now and everything looks suspect. In reality this whole thing is probably micromanaged a zillion ways from Sunday and there is zero time or opportunity to do anything out of line. She has a role, he has a role, and the whole thing is set up to be followed without deviation of any sort.
posted by Joe in Australia at 7:51 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
i totally get that it didn't seem to be his original intent - but when the radio station and t. swift's people were looking at it, of course it was part of the decision making process.
I'd say the same thing about every aspect of (what appears to be) a meet-and-greet photo opportunity. If he made a big deal about hugging her it would be creepy. If he made a big deal about holding her hand it would be creepy. If he made a big deal about talking to her it would be creepy. It's in our heads now and everything looks suspect. In reality this whole thing is probably micromanaged a zillion ways from Sunday and there is zero time or opportunity to do anything out of line. She has a role, he has a role, and the whole thing is set up to be followed without deviation of any sort.
posted by Joe in Australia at 7:51 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
Phssthpok: "If Taylor Swift let Charles smell her hair, she would be Taylor Snift.
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed."
Yeah, and if she drove a manual transmission, she'd be Taylor Shift.
Dimensionally unstable? Taylor Rift.
posted by Samizdata at 8:38 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
If Taylor Swift were a con artist, she would be Taylor Grift.
If Taylor Swift filtered a cup of flour to bake a cake, she would be Taylor Sift.
If Taylor Swift were lost at sea, she would be Taylor Adrift.
If Taylor Swift got upset about this kind of thing, she would be Taylor Miffed."
Yeah, and if she drove a manual transmission, she'd be Taylor Shift.
Dimensionally unstable? Taylor Rift.
posted by Samizdata at 8:38 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
Ad hominem: "Rocket Surgeon, you are too close to this one. I'm ordering a psych evaluation. I'm going to need your badge and service weapon."
But he's only two days from retirement! Be nice, he's too old for this shit.
posted by Samizdata at 8:40 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
But he's only two days from retirement! Be nice, he's too old for this shit.
posted by Samizdata at 8:40 AM on July 25, 2013 [3 favorites]
he's too old for this shit.
Whereas Charles Z is too old for this Swift.
posted by kmz at 8:50 AM on July 25, 2013
Whereas Charles Z is too old for this Swift.
posted by kmz at 8:50 AM on July 25, 2013
also for everyone feeling bad about their age Carly Rae Japsen was 28 when Call Me Maybe came out
Yeah, speaking of stuff that creeps you out, I was completely squigged by how Jepsen always seemed to dress and talk like a pseudo-teenager when she was pushing 30. I realize it was a marketing thing but boy was it creepy. Thankfully I think they've dropped it because it just wasn't working.
posted by Justinian at 12:28 PM on July 25, 2013
Yeah, speaking of stuff that creeps you out, I was completely squigged by how Jepsen always seemed to dress and talk like a pseudo-teenager when she was pushing 30. I realize it was a marketing thing but boy was it creepy. Thankfully I think they've dropped it because it just wasn't working.
posted by Justinian at 12:28 PM on July 25, 2013
I think we're all taking the "The people of the Internet demand it, and who am I to cheat them?" thing from the GQ interview very seriously. This guy sounds funny. Like he did something crazy and a bit weird for fun. And maybe he made a joke about the hair sniffing and his friend ran with it, or maybe he is his friend, but either way it does not sound like he was salivating over the idea of involving TSwift in his kink.
He's not a creep, he's a funny guy. It would have been really great if the radio station had gone along with it, and maybe told Swift about it, and they did some cutesy reaction shot with a planned hair-sniff. But the radio station got all involved in this creep rhetoric and pulled the plug, which is too bad.
That being said, if Ms. Swift was all "ew, I really don't want to do this," that's absolutely her right, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
posted by AmandaA at 1:33 PM on July 25, 2013
He's not a creep, he's a funny guy. It would have been really great if the radio station had gone along with it, and maybe told Swift about it, and they did some cutesy reaction shot with a planned hair-sniff. But the radio station got all involved in this creep rhetoric and pulled the plug, which is too bad.
That being said, if Ms. Swift was all "ew, I really don't want to do this," that's absolutely her right, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
posted by AmandaA at 1:33 PM on July 25, 2013
He's not a creep, he's a funny guy.
I read the GQ article yesterday. I think he's both.
posted by cashman at 1:45 PM on July 25, 2013
I read the GQ article yesterday. I think he's both.
posted by cashman at 1:45 PM on July 25, 2013
Or rather, to avoid the "what he is" distraction, I think his behavior has been creepy.
posted by cashman at 1:48 PM on July 25, 2013
posted by cashman at 1:48 PM on July 25, 2013
Halloween Jack: "You know who I bet smells really nice? Viggo Mortensen. He looks like the sort of guy who understands his own body chemistry and, at any given moment--except maybe right after a heavy workout and before a shower, but maybe even then, too--just has it perfect. Never too much cologne (which an adoring perfumist fan mixes for him for free), not too little. I don't have a crush on him or anything, I just get that feeling about him."
In real-life Viggo-Mortensen-seems-like-an-all-round-sweet-dude news, my girlfriend who used to work at the Apple Store reports that he came in there one time on a visit to St. Louis because his computer was busted, and in addition to being exceedingly polite and warm with the staff he later sent them an entire boxful of his book of poetry as a thank-you present.
so what I'm saying is I give you permission to have a crush on Viggo Mortensen
posted by invitapriore at 2:43 PM on July 25, 2013 [5 favorites]
In real-life Viggo-Mortensen-seems-like-an-all-round-sweet-dude news, my girlfriend who used to work at the Apple Store reports that he came in there one time on a visit to St. Louis because his computer was busted, and in addition to being exceedingly polite and warm with the staff he later sent them an entire boxful of his book of poetry as a thank-you present.
so what I'm saying is I give you permission to have a crush on Viggo Mortensen
posted by invitapriore at 2:43 PM on July 25, 2013 [5 favorites]
From my experience working at a college, the, er, "youngsters" take umbrage with some that is of an age to be their parent - and 39 qualifies, especially if it's someone who hasn't had a makeup artist assist with the latest publicity shoot. Sure, there are interesting celebrities who are 39 and older, but if the affection is coming from someone who reminds them that their parents still have a sex life, they get twitchy and unpleasant adjectives get unpacked.
posted by childofTethys at 3:55 PM on July 26, 2013
posted by childofTethys at 3:55 PM on July 26, 2013
The rule's still 2n+7, right? If she's 22 (is she?), 39 is too old for her/young for him.
posted by maryr at 9:23 PM on July 28, 2013
posted by maryr at 9:23 PM on July 28, 2013
It's either 1/2n + 7 or 2n - 7, depending on which way you're going. Pretty good guide.
posted by jb at 12:29 AM on July 29, 2013
posted by jb at 12:29 AM on July 29, 2013
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posted by lumpenprole at 2:16 PM on July 24, 2013 [39 favorites]