Valar morghulis
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Valar Dohaeris!
posted by ActingTheGoat at 12:15 PM on March 5, 2019
posted by ActingTheGoat at 12:15 PM on March 5, 2019
So this is like the pre-teaser for the Deadwood movie trailer yeah?
posted by turbid dahlia at 12:19 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
posted by turbid dahlia at 12:19 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
It's great that this is the last season. Go out on a high note.
I wouldn't mind seeing a show dedicated to just Arya and her adventures as a chaotic good assassin. Or Tyrion and The hound on a comedy show.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 12:22 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
I wouldn't mind seeing a show dedicated to just Arya and her adventures as a chaotic good assassin. Or Tyrion and The hound on a comedy show.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 12:22 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
>cersiedrinkingwine.gif
Yeah, I'm a little worried about her, she looked she got started pretty early in the morning...
posted by Sing Or Swim at 12:24 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I'm a little worried about her, she looked she got started pretty early in the morning...
posted by Sing Or Swim at 12:24 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
Also, since I assume we're discussing possible spoilers up in here, I mean why else would you watch this trailer unless you were caught up...
Who is this?
posted by Fizz at 12:29 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
Who is this?
posted by Fizz at 12:29 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
Squid King?
posted by turbid dahlia at 12:31 PM on March 5, 2019
posted by turbid dahlia at 12:31 PM on March 5, 2019
That thing being forged...THE sword?
posted by corb at 12:32 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by corb at 12:32 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
ok I'll admit to being excited.
was that a quick shot of Gendry just before the 1:00???
posted by supermedusa at 12:34 PM on March 5, 2019 [11 favorites]
was that a quick shot of Gendry just before the 1:00???
posted by supermedusa at 12:34 PM on March 5, 2019 [11 favorites]
Fizz I thought that it was Jaime at first because of the hair, but he's wearing his sword on the left and Jaime doesn't have a right hand anymore.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 12:38 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by ActingTheGoat at 12:38 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
I thought it was that dumb ironborn guy. the "make pyke great again" asshole.
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 12:41 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 12:41 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
Fizz - Watchers on the Wall is speculating that it's Harry Strickland (commander of the Golden Company).
posted by lindseyg at 12:44 PM on March 5, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by lindseyg at 12:44 PM on March 5, 2019 [7 favorites]
Dropped off mid season 4, maybe I’ll watch the finale just to see how it all ends.
posted by rodlymight at 12:46 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by rodlymight at 12:46 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
It is a lot of plot for so few episodes. I am curious how GRRM and show writers are going to tie the loose ends. What tropes will be overturned? Hints indicate that the battle sequence is longer than the longest battle in Lord of the Rings, which is saying something. Professionals, can you tell us if 55 nights of filming indicates just how big the sequence is going to be?
posted by jadepearl at 12:49 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by jadepearl at 12:49 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
how it all ends
In tears. It all ends in tears.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:51 PM on March 5, 2019 [30 favorites]
In tears. It all ends in tears.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:51 PM on March 5, 2019 [30 favorites]
was that a quick shot of Gendry just before the 1:00???
Definitely. For whatever reason, they've swung hard from the 5-6 seasons of totally ignoring him to deciding he's one of the 15-25 most important characters left.
As for the guy on the boat, there aren't really that many blonde men with two hands available, so I guess maybe it's Theon but I can see it being someone totally new to the story.
posted by Copronymus at 12:53 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
Definitely. For whatever reason, they've swung hard from the 5-6 seasons of totally ignoring him to deciding he's one of the 15-25 most important characters left.
As for the guy on the boat, there aren't really that many blonde men with two hands available, so I guess maybe it's Theon but I can see it being someone totally new to the story.
posted by Copronymus at 12:53 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
how it all ends
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
posted by Barack Spinoza at 12:54 PM on March 5, 2019 [14 favorites]
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
posted by Barack Spinoza at 12:54 PM on March 5, 2019 [14 favorites]
It is a lot of plot for so few episodes
Each episode this season is 90 minutes. 6 episodes, each of which is movie length. They GoT time.
posted by mcstayinskool at 12:55 PM on March 5, 2019 [7 favorites]
Each episode this season is 90 minutes. 6 episodes, each of which is movie length. They GoT time.
posted by mcstayinskool at 12:55 PM on March 5, 2019 [7 favorites]
Who is this?
Family sigil on the ship a the back is House Greyjoy so either Theon or his mean uncle, played by Pilou Asbaek. Both are more curly than that usually though.
posted by biffa at 12:57 PM on March 5, 2019
Family sigil on the ship a the back is House Greyjoy so either Theon or his mean uncle, played by Pilou Asbaek. Both are more curly than that usually though.
posted by biffa at 12:57 PM on March 5, 2019
The 90-minute Clegane Bowl will be the best one.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 12:57 PM on March 5, 2019 [13 favorites]
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 12:57 PM on March 5, 2019 [13 favorites]
The “who is this” guy is indeed Harry Strickland, leader of the Golden Company, who Euron Greyjoy was sent to fetch from Essos. He’s being portrayed by Marc Rissmann.
posted by verbminx at 1:14 PM on March 5, 2019 [4 favorites]
posted by verbminx at 1:14 PM on March 5, 2019 [4 favorites]
how it all ends
With GRRM stepping out of the shower, and his wife saying "I just had the strangest dream. You were in it! And you had actual pages!"
posted by delfin at 1:17 PM on March 5, 2019 [17 favorites]
With GRRM stepping out of the shower, and his wife saying "I just had the strangest dream. You were in it! And you had actual pages!"
posted by delfin at 1:17 PM on March 5, 2019 [17 favorites]
(I mean, the golden armor on him and the troops he’s surveying on the ship is the big clue on that one. There’s no particular good reason why Euron or Theon would be wearing it, but there is a good reason why the Golden Company would be on Euron’s ship: we were told it would be happening in 7x07.
FWIW, my initial thought was “What is Jaime doing there?” but of course it’s not Jaime, and it would be super jarring — for plot reasons! — if it were.)
posted by verbminx at 1:18 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
FWIW, my initial thought was “What is Jaime doing there?” but of course it’s not Jaime, and it would be super jarring — for plot reasons! — if it were.)
posted by verbminx at 1:18 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
The Ringer: An Exhaustive Breakdown of the Season 8 ‘Game of Thrones’ Trailer
posted by 1970s Antihero at 1:23 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by 1970s Antihero at 1:23 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
Who is this?
I was wondering if it might be Cersei. Obviously not, but still... there's at least some chance that she'll ally with Team Greyjoy.
posted by irisclara at 1:57 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
I was wondering if it might be Cersei. Obviously not, but still... there's at least some chance that she'll ally with Team Greyjoy.
posted by irisclara at 1:57 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
I'm just happy to have seen Dondarrion, Tormund, and Edd right after that boat scene.
posted by hanov3r at 2:26 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by hanov3r at 2:26 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
In fact, I want an entire episode of season 8 to be the three of them wandering, Spinal-Tap-like, around the tunnels under the ruins of Eastmarch, trying to find an exit.
posted by hanov3r at 2:31 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
posted by hanov3r at 2:31 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
Fizz I thought that it was Jaime at first because of the hair, but he's wearing his sword on the left and Jaime doesn't have a right hand anymore.
For what it's worth, it is not impossible that the image was flipped intentionally or unintentionally. One shot in ST:Disco two weeks back was reversed left to right -- perhaps to make the blocking clearer -- but everyone's uniform insignia switched sides. It would have been a minor and probably unnoticed CGI fix to clear that up, but it did not happen. Promotional trailers are held to much lower standards of accurately depicting the action than the final aired product.
(All this to say that I thought it was Jamie as well.)
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:21 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
For what it's worth, it is not impossible that the image was flipped intentionally or unintentionally. One shot in ST:Disco two weeks back was reversed left to right -- perhaps to make the blocking clearer -- but everyone's uniform insignia switched sides. It would have been a minor and probably unnoticed CGI fix to clear that up, but it did not happen. Promotional trailers are held to much lower standards of accurately depicting the action than the final aired product.
(All this to say that I thought it was Jamie as well.)
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:21 PM on March 5, 2019 [2 favorites]
eeeeeeeeeeeee!
Also, THE SHIPS ARE SO WRONG THEY ARE SO SO WRONG THAT IS NOW HOW YOU TRANSPORT SOLDIERS JESUS CHRIST Thank you I feel better now #shiptruther
Brienne and Tormund both survived so I. am. here. for. this!
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 3:31 PM on March 5, 2019 [14 favorites]
Also, THE SHIPS ARE SO WRONG THEY ARE SO SO WRONG THAT IS NOW HOW YOU TRANSPORT SOLDIERS JESUS CHRIST Thank you I feel better now #shiptruther
Brienne and Tormund both survived so I. am. here. for. this!
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 3:31 PM on March 5, 2019 [14 favorites]
Bran better time travel this season for an important reason or i’ll be so annoyed that they introduced the possiblity of time travel and just left it there, burning a hole in my plot-mind.
posted by dis_integration at 3:37 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by dis_integration at 3:37 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
somehow I convinced my brain to turn itself off whenever anything involving euron's fleet is happening. it's for the best that way.
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 3:37 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 3:37 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
I thought the news were reporting that Season 8 episodes will each be longer, a full hour or more, so it the running time will be roughly the same as Season 7?
posted by polymodus at 3:38 PM on March 5, 2019
posted by polymodus at 3:38 PM on March 5, 2019
Fizz - Watchers on the Wall is speculating that it's Harry Strickland (commander of the Golden Company).
AEGON VI CONFIRMED
posted by Apocryphon at 3:46 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
AEGON VI CONFIRMED
posted by Apocryphon at 3:46 PM on March 5, 2019 [6 favorites]
like uh for example the solid-black sails. like, what.
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 3:47 PM on March 5, 2019
posted by Reclusive Novelist Thomas Pynchon at 3:47 PM on March 5, 2019
"Bran better time travel this season for an important reason or i’ll be so annoyed that they introduced the possiblity of time travel and just left it there, burning a hole in my plot-mind."
I mean, it turned out real shit the first time he messed with that. For everyone's sake, it's probably best he fuck off with that time-warging shit.
posted by GoblinHoney at 3:56 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
I mean, it turned out real shit the first time he messed with that. For everyone's sake, it's probably best he fuck off with that time-warging shit.
posted by GoblinHoney at 3:56 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
I thought that it was Jaime at first because of the hair, but he's wearing his sword on the left and Jaime doesn't have a right hand anymore.
You can see two hands if you squint just right.
It's clearly timetravel Jaime from... some time in season 1. Then memory wipes and...
sorry. I can't make the time travel leap for you, dis_integration. I know the feeling from, of all shows, Castle. Time travel was introduced, shown to be real, then dropped without a further word.
I'm interested in how the dragons will be just total flops. Like, dead in episode 2 from a lucky shot or a disease. I don't know what other major twist could happen. Arya serving the many faced god and deciding that she's really on the side of the white walkers? Gendry just totally getting into helmet art and thereby not noticing the end times and in the end is the last survivor with a claim to the throne? That red comet from before just smashing into westeros and turning everything into a smoldering crater?
Time travel can be worked in to any of these options if you like. Just not by me.
[Cut to Varys weaving an underwater tapestry and it was all just a story told among merpeople....]
posted by Acari at 4:00 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
You can see two hands if you squint just right.
It's clearly timetravel Jaime from... some time in season 1. Then memory wipes and...
sorry. I can't make the time travel leap for you, dis_integration. I know the feeling from, of all shows, Castle. Time travel was introduced, shown to be real, then dropped without a further word.
I'm interested in how the dragons will be just total flops. Like, dead in episode 2 from a lucky shot or a disease. I don't know what other major twist could happen. Arya serving the many faced god and deciding that she's really on the side of the white walkers? Gendry just totally getting into helmet art and thereby not noticing the end times and in the end is the last survivor with a claim to the throne? That red comet from before just smashing into westeros and turning everything into a smoldering crater?
Time travel can be worked in to any of these options if you like. Just not by me.
[Cut to Varys weaving an underwater tapestry and it was all just a story told among merpeople....]
posted by Acari at 4:00 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
" For everyone's sake, it's probably best he fuck off with that time-warging shit."
(Book spoiler maybe?) Prediction I've had since book one when what's-her-name, the nanny, told him a story: Bran now is Bran the Builder. Over the course of the TV series I've concluded he will time-warg back in time to build the Wall and, like, bond his soul to it or some shit? Enmagicate it with his soul? That sort of thing.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 4:03 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
(Book spoiler maybe?) Prediction I've had since book one when what's-her-name, the nanny, told him a story: Bran now is Bran the Builder. Over the course of the TV series I've concluded he will time-warg back in time to build the Wall and, like, bond his soul to it or some shit? Enmagicate it with his soul? That sort of thing.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 4:03 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
So many fans will be heartbroken when Hermione dies.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 4:19 PM on March 5, 2019 [8 favorites]
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 4:19 PM on March 5, 2019 [8 favorites]
So Ser Pounce Becomes a white walker and kills Cercei, right? The littlest cutesest brother just strangles the fuck out of her.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 4:21 PM on March 5, 2019 [9 favorites]
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 4:21 PM on March 5, 2019 [9 favorites]
the only trailer for this show that has ever mattered
posted by ivan ivanych samovar at 4:33 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
posted by ivan ivanych samovar at 4:33 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
The 90-minute Clegane Bowl will be the best one.
GET HYPE!
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 4:49 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
GET HYPE!
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 4:49 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
Complaining about ship-making logistics on GoT is like complaining about love-making logistics on GoT ...
posted by Barack Spinoza at 5:07 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by Barack Spinoza at 5:07 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
... there’s not plausibly enough wood to explain either.
posted by Barack Spinoza at 5:10 PM on March 5, 2019 [36 favorites]
posted by Barack Spinoza at 5:10 PM on March 5, 2019 [36 favorites]
No time travel. Bran warg into dragon! Burn King's Landing then Whitewalkers. Jon Stark and Danaerys go on date. etc. End.
posted by Liquidwolf at 5:34 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by Liquidwolf at 5:34 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
Still holding out for the last 15 minutes at the height of the battle, the white walkers are about to decimate the combined armies of all the kingdoms and from above many dragon flames melt the walkers, but not regular flames bright beams, laser like wipe out the walkers, the day is won, at the center of the lords and kings there is a glowing, a few strange maesters appear, the one in the center smiles "I'm James T Kirk, we are usually not allowed to intervene but these Klingon-Romulan hybrids were illegally introduced into this world..."
posted by sammyo at 5:58 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
posted by sammyo at 5:58 PM on March 5, 2019 [10 favorites]
I'm telling you: ten thousand dragonglass arrowheads, a hundred dragonglass-tipped ballista bolts for the ice zombie dragon, Cersei and Euron kill each other because they're crazy like that, and the rest of the episode is everyone chilling at Winterfell and talking about how the real game of thrones were the friends they made along the way.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:44 PM on March 5, 2019 [15 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:44 PM on March 5, 2019 [15 favorites]
The 90-minute Clegane Bowl will be the best one.
GET HYPE!
CLEGANE BOUL CONFIRM!!!
posted by mwhybark at 6:53 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
GET HYPE!
CLEGANE BOUL CONFIRM!!!
posted by mwhybark at 6:53 PM on March 5, 2019 [3 favorites]
I've been trying to work out why they had Cersei hold out. Dramatically, I mean. It's totally in character for her, so I'm fine with it from that end. But from a basic storytelling angle, you wouldn't want to have this huge 90 minute, record-breaking battle sequence, complete with multiple armies, dragons, ice-zombies, most of the main characters we care about, multiple deaths of main characters we care about (probably), etc., only to then follow that up with yet another battle for King's Landing with whatever rag-tag remnants are left over.
It would just be so underwhelming.
And they have to know that. There are plenty of mopping up the various arcs that would be entertaining, but who gives a shit about Euron and the Golden Shower Company? No one.
So either a) the Golden Shower Company come to an untimely ending before the war with the Whitewalkers; b) the Whitewalkers are defeated, but Cersei actually triumphs in the end; c) the Whitewalkers win the war and then overrun King's Landing; or d) Cersei is defeated through trickery rather than a long, drawn out battle. I expect option d.
First off, I wonder why Euron and the Golden Shower Company wouldn't just kill Cersei and take over King's Landing as soon as they get there. It wouldn't be as satisfying as having her die at the hand of one of the many, many people she has wronged, but it would certainly make sense.
Or Bran could warg into The Mountain and throw her out of a tower window, which would be satisfying for us, but likely wouldn't be even interesting to him anymore.
Arya makes the most sense, since she could get in and take care of business with little to no help from anyone else, but I would be surprised if they actually had her deal the death blow.
If it were up to me, Sam would wind up on the iron throne after Sansa turned it down to rebuild the North.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 7:08 PM on March 5, 2019
It would just be so underwhelming.
And they have to know that. There are plenty of mopping up the various arcs that would be entertaining, but who gives a shit about Euron and the Golden Shower Company? No one.
So either a) the Golden Shower Company come to an untimely ending before the war with the Whitewalkers; b) the Whitewalkers are defeated, but Cersei actually triumphs in the end; c) the Whitewalkers win the war and then overrun King's Landing; or d) Cersei is defeated through trickery rather than a long, drawn out battle. I expect option d.
First off, I wonder why Euron and the Golden Shower Company wouldn't just kill Cersei and take over King's Landing as soon as they get there. It wouldn't be as satisfying as having her die at the hand of one of the many, many people she has wronged, but it would certainly make sense.
Or Bran could warg into The Mountain and throw her out of a tower window, which would be satisfying for us, but likely wouldn't be even interesting to him anymore.
Arya makes the most sense, since she could get in and take care of business with little to no help from anyone else, but I would be surprised if they actually had her deal the death blow.
If it were up to me, Sam would wind up on the iron throne after Sansa turned it down to rebuild the North.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 7:08 PM on March 5, 2019
Oh good, a new thread. I can continue to post the Hollywood Reporter "Final Path" series. Let's get caught up.
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
posted by hippybear at 7:08 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
posted by hippybear at 7:08 PM on March 5, 2019 [5 favorites]
It’sRainingFlo: I am very active in the fandom. I’m not going to spoil you guys (that would be such a huge dick move!), but I’m pretty confident when I say that I think the trailer only covers the first three episodes, with the possible exception of one or two shots. I believe the reason is that showing anything from Eps 4-6 ruins the suspense for those sequences in terms of who survives that battle, but also that HBO is likely trying to push people to focus on the huge expensive battle that was misery to shoot, and not the back half of the season. (This isn’t like S5, where the big “break the wheel” speech in the trailer was in something like 5x08.)
Judging from the theories I see tossed around here and elsewhere, the reason they want to distract you with the fighting is that while we all pretty much expect a battle against the Army of the Dead at Winterfell, a lot of what comes after is going to be genuinely surprising for most viewers. Only Cleganebowl has been foreshadowed enough to be expected (honestly so much that I think it will be weird if it ultimately doesn’t happen). If anyone wants more context about that, it’s cool to message me, but I don’t think I should talk about it further here.
(The FanFare threads on the last couple of episodes to air gave me life at the time, especially the line “Aunt Dragons and the Doltish Nephew Who Loves Her.” This year I’ll be there too!)
posted by verbminx at 8:03 PM on March 5, 2019 [4 favorites]
Judging from the theories I see tossed around here and elsewhere, the reason they want to distract you with the fighting is that while we all pretty much expect a battle against the Army of the Dead at Winterfell, a lot of what comes after is going to be genuinely surprising for most viewers. Only Cleganebowl has been foreshadowed enough to be expected (honestly so much that I think it will be weird if it ultimately doesn’t happen). If anyone wants more context about that, it’s cool to message me, but I don’t think I should talk about it further here.
(The FanFare threads on the last couple of episodes to air gave me life at the time, especially the line “Aunt Dragons and the Doltish Nephew Who Loves Her.” This year I’ll be there too!)
posted by verbminx at 8:03 PM on March 5, 2019 [4 favorites]
c) the Whitewalkers win the war and then overrun King's Landing;
this is literally the only outcome that makes sense. It is a part of a millenia-long natural process. Whatever the outcome of the events involving baby dragons, their mama, and the resurrected king that matters to the precession of Planetos is some thousands of years in the future. Will the show show us this? Of course not. We'll observe a victory which on analysis is a defeat.
posted by mwhybark at 10:40 PM on March 5, 2019
this is literally the only outcome that makes sense. It is a part of a millenia-long natural process. Whatever the outcome of the events involving baby dragons, their mama, and the resurrected king that matters to the precession of Planetos is some thousands of years in the future. Will the show show us this? Of course not. We'll observe a victory which on analysis is a defeat.
posted by mwhybark at 10:40 PM on March 5, 2019
Well, I am not sure what I say will be deleted, so SPOILERS maybe. SPOILERS.
============ SPOILERS =========== SPECULATON ===========SPOILERS
Wouldn't you evacuate King's Landing and just let all that Cersei motivated green fire have its way? Similar to the destruction of Armenghar in the Riftwar Saga? One giant trap of flame and explosions? After all, she only blew up the Sept but still has all that green fire secreted around King's Landing.
posted by jadepearl at 11:50 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
============ SPOILERS =========== SPECULATON ===========SPOILERS
Wouldn't you evacuate King's Landing and just let all that Cersei motivated green fire have its way? Similar to the destruction of Armenghar in the Riftwar Saga? One giant trap of flame and explosions? After all, she only blew up the Sept but still has all that green fire secreted around King's Landing.
posted by jadepearl at 11:50 PM on March 5, 2019 [1 favorite]
Cersei controls King's Landing. Good luck getting her out of there to pull the plan off, 'cause she's certainly not gonna blow up her power base.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:48 AM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:48 AM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
Bran’s time warging fucked with the timestream, which is why the pace of the plot accelerated suddenly in season 7. For season 8, each episode will cover a year’s worth of plot points crammed into the space of a few days. This will take the form of extended montages in which hundreds of characters are stabbed, burned, beheaded, and torn apart by wights, one after another. In the end, only Hot Pie will remain to claim the Iron Throne.
posted by dephlogisticated at 5:52 AM on March 6, 2019 [12 favorites]
posted by dephlogisticated at 5:52 AM on March 6, 2019 [12 favorites]
In the end, only Hot Pie will remain to claim the Iron Throne.
Season 9: Game of Gravy
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:25 AM on March 6, 2019 [3 favorites]
Season 9: Game of Gravy
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:25 AM on March 6, 2019 [3 favorites]
Game of Scones?
posted by Barack Spinoza at 11:10 AM on March 6, 2019 [5 favorites]
posted by Barack Spinoza at 11:10 AM on March 6, 2019 [5 favorites]
Time to see if I can remember the password to my GoT/UKS mash-up tumblr...
posted by Rock Steady at 12:25 PM on March 6, 2019 [3 favorites]
posted by Rock Steady at 12:25 PM on March 6, 2019 [3 favorites]
Hmmm...you know, I wonder if any fiery conflagration such as, a green firestorm in King's Landing could hatch a dragon's egg. You would satisfy the cruel nature of sacrifice and how it seems to work in Westeros and you got fire. Petrification or seeming petrification does not prohibit their viability as evidenced by Daenerys' three dragons. Are there any dragon eggs left in the world, I wonder.
In keeping with GRRM playing with the concept of prophecy, if the dragon needs three heads we are down to 2 live dragons and one wight (not sure if that counts as a dragon) for the prophecy's interpretation. Does this prophecy need three living dragons, and if so, where will the third emerge and who is the rider? But prophecy is never going to come about the way you think it will.
The reason GoT does so well is that it takes the real conflict of the War of the Roses' dynastic struggle add the brutal medieval realism and plays HARD in subverting your usual fantasy tropes and expectations. I remember being stunned at who I thought was the main protagonist, Ned Stark, beheaded in the first book. Since that point, one never knows who are going to be the winners or losers in any given situation. Beauty, brains, brawn, truth, justice and even divine influences do not guarantee any outcome. It is what makes the books and series jolting. I am assuming that the ending will NOT be the standard happily ever after. The best you can hope for is something bittersweet, which is the standard flavor of life, I guess. What flower emerges out of the conflicted soil of the heart is one of the questions of any good story.
posted by jadepearl at 1:13 PM on March 6, 2019
In keeping with GRRM playing with the concept of prophecy, if the dragon needs three heads we are down to 2 live dragons and one wight (not sure if that counts as a dragon) for the prophecy's interpretation. Does this prophecy need three living dragons, and if so, where will the third emerge and who is the rider? But prophecy is never going to come about the way you think it will.
The reason GoT does so well is that it takes the real conflict of the War of the Roses' dynastic struggle add the brutal medieval realism and plays HARD in subverting your usual fantasy tropes and expectations. I remember being stunned at who I thought was the main protagonist, Ned Stark, beheaded in the first book. Since that point, one never knows who are going to be the winners or losers in any given situation. Beauty, brains, brawn, truth, justice and even divine influences do not guarantee any outcome. It is what makes the books and series jolting. I am assuming that the ending will NOT be the standard happily ever after. The best you can hope for is something bittersweet, which is the standard flavor of life, I guess. What flower emerges out of the conflicted soil of the heart is one of the questions of any good story.
posted by jadepearl at 1:13 PM on March 6, 2019
Is this where I posit my theory about how the "world" in Game of Thrones is a generation spaceship that the inhabitants have forgotten about, and the White Walkers are the system daemons awakening to fix the climate stabilization modules and put the pesky passengers back into hibernation for pre-arrival maintenance?
... No?
OK, fine, I'll see myself out...
posted by RedOrGreen at 1:17 PM on March 6, 2019 [2 favorites]
... No?
OK, fine, I'll see myself out...
posted by RedOrGreen at 1:17 PM on March 6, 2019 [2 favorites]
Obviously you mean my theory:
The map in the opening credits of the TV show is pretty clearly concave and I've wondered if this was a broad hint about the nature of the world. I'm looking forward with gleeful anticipation to the howls of fannish protest when Bran (or Jon?) reaches the Lands of Always Winter and finds the Others guarding the control room of a generation starship which is approaching its final destination. Unfortunately, their first attempts to maneuver it into orbit and avert disaster lead to all sorts of disruption inside the ship: the seas automatically draining to prevent sloshing, the "sun" reversing direction and rising in the west...and:
Nah, a generation starship fits the story better. Why is the sun going to rise in the west and the seas go dry? The ship reaches its destination and decelerates. Who are the Others? Decaying maintenance androids (glowing blue eyes!) whose nanotech-based repair abilities can "rewire" and reanimate corpses. Where's Benjen? He's in the control room in the Land of Always Winter, learning the Truth. Pretty soon, Uncle B is going to reveal himself to Jon, say, "Come north with me if you want to live," and GRRM will abandon all the medieval politics for a properly scientifictional, Orphans of the Sky-style, "everything you know is wrong!" ending.posted by The Tensor at 2:05 PM on March 6, 2019 [4 favorites]
I wonder if any fiery conflagration such as, a green firestorm in King's Landing could hatch a dragon's egg
Do you want the Tragedy at Summerhall? Because that's how you get the Tragedy at Summerhall.
posted by The Tensor at 2:06 PM on March 6, 2019 [4 favorites]
Do you want the Tragedy at Summerhall? Because that's how you get the Tragedy at Summerhall.
posted by The Tensor at 2:06 PM on March 6, 2019 [4 favorites]
> Obviously you mean my theory
Ohhh so that's where the bug got into my head! I blame you!
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:10 PM on March 6, 2019
Ohhh so that's where the bug got into my head! I blame you!
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:10 PM on March 6, 2019
George R.R. Martin Says There May Be 'Discrepancies' Between the Game of Thrones Finale and His Books
FFS, George. You mean THOSE BOOKS YOU HAVEN'T EVEN WRITTEN YET?
posted by zakur at 2:37 PM on March 6, 2019 [8 favorites]
FFS, George. You mean THOSE BOOKS YOU HAVEN'T EVEN WRITTEN YET?
posted by zakur at 2:37 PM on March 6, 2019 [8 favorites]
The reason GoT does so well is that it takes the real conflict of the War of the Roses' dynastic struggle add the brutal medieval realism and plays HARD in subverting your usual fantasy tropes and expectations.
And yet the Stark family is reunited and all in positions of power. HMMMM.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:15 PM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
And yet the Stark family is reunited and all in positions of power. HMMMM.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:15 PM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
I love the generation ship headcannon, but from what I’ve read, the actual reasoning behind the opening went something like this:
VFX Guy #1: I was thinking we’d show a map so that audiences can get a sense of where all these places are relative to each other.posted by dephlogisticated at 5:03 PM on March 6, 2019 [2 favorites]
VFX Guy #2: Great!
VFX Guy #1: And the castles can sort of rise up out of the ground like clockwork models.
VFX Guy #2: Awesome! But what goes beyond the horizon?
VFX Guy #1: Uh, sky, I guess?
VFX Guy #2: But wouldn’t that ruin the sense that it’s a model?
VFX Guy #1: ...
VFX Guy #2: ...
VFX Guy #1: Fuck it, we’ll just invert the globe.
And yet the Stark family is reunited and all in positions of power. HMMMM.
Well, the half (4/8) of them that are still alive anyway.
(If you count Jon Snow, who is a Stark even if he's not part of the main Stark family we see)
Although 3 of the 4 deaths occurred fairly early on, when the whole "subverting tropes" thing seemed more true. There's still time for more of that, of course, but we'll see.
posted by thefoxgod at 5:33 PM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
Well, the half (4/8) of them that are still alive anyway.
(If you count Jon Snow, who is a Stark even if he's not part of the main Stark family we see)
Although 3 of the 4 deaths occurred fairly early on, when the whole "subverting tropes" thing seemed more true. There's still time for more of that, of course, but we'll see.
posted by thefoxgod at 5:33 PM on March 6, 2019 [1 favorite]
I'm headcannoning Ben Crompton's acceleratingly receding hairline as a result of Dolorous Edd feeling the stress of being (acting) Lord Commander.
RedOrGreen, the idea that Planetos is a generation ship is a very common trope with the orrery intro being a common starting impetus.
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At this point, I don't really care how it ends, just that it does (and will definitely be watching and snarking).
Huh, just had a Baader-Meinhof moment. I've just started rewatching S7 and noticed a temporal back-reference to The Gravediiger, which I totally can't remember from the books but which I discovered today was a thing.
posted by porpoise at 7:50 PM on March 7, 2019
RedOrGreen, the idea that Planetos is a generation ship is a very common trope with the orrery intro being a common starting impetus.
--
At this point, I don't really care how it ends, just that it does (and will definitely be watching and snarking).
Huh, just had a Baader-Meinhof moment. I've just started rewatching S7 and noticed a temporal back-reference to The Gravediiger, which I totally can't remember from the books but which I discovered today was a thing.
posted by porpoise at 7:50 PM on March 7, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Samwell Tarly
A Battle for My Life - I had just finished filming Season 1 of “Game of Thrones.” Then I was struck with the first of two aneurysms. By Emilia Clarke
posted by hippybear at 2:51 PM on March 21, 2019
A Battle for My Life - I had just finished filming Season 1 of “Game of Thrones.” Then I was struck with the first of two aneurysms. By Emilia Clarke
posted by hippybear at 2:51 PM on March 21, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Theon Greyjoy
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of the Hound
posted by hippybear at 12:41 PM on March 24, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of the Hound
posted by hippybear at 12:41 PM on March 24, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Brienne of Tarth
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Varys
posted by hippybear at 8:46 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Varys
posted by hippybear at 8:46 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
Thanks for posting these, hippybear, I've been reading and enjoying them every time.
posted by corb at 9:03 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by corb at 9:03 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
if the dragon needs three heads we are down to 2 live dragons and one wight (not sure if that counts as a dragon) for the prophecy's interpretation. Does this prophecy need three living dragons, and if so, where will the third emerge and who is the rider?
Dany and Jon will have a child. Because Jon is undead, the baby will be an undead baby, and will grow abnormally fast. We know this is how it works because of Twilight. The undead baby will be the third head of the dragon and ride the wight dragon using the special saddle that Tyrion designed for Bran.
posted by tofu_crouton at 9:22 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
Dany and Jon will have a child. Because Jon is undead, the baby will be an undead baby, and will grow abnormally fast. We know this is how it works because of Twilight. The undead baby will be the third head of the dragon and ride the wight dragon using the special saddle that Tyrion designed for Bran.
posted by tofu_crouton at 9:22 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
This thread will close before there are any more to post, but I've enjoyed reading them, too.
posted by hippybear at 10:03 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by hippybear at 10:03 AM on April 1, 2019 [1 favorite]
Woo buddy! We're getting a tsunami of these right now:
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Melisandre
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Davos Seaworth
Also, several new trailers are out. Might be worthy of being a new post, but I'm going to put it here for now.
posted by hippybear at 6:05 AM on April 4, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Melisandre
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Davos Seaworth
Also, several new trailers are out. Might be worthy of being a new post, but I'm going to put it here for now.
posted by hippybear at 6:05 AM on April 4, 2019
Caught Emilia Clark's slip on 'The Late Show' that Iain Glen attended, like, 8 different wrap parties.
posted by porpoise at 9:17 AM on April 4, 2019
posted by porpoise at 9:17 AM on April 4, 2019
'Game of Thrones' Final Path: The Journey of Jorah Mormont
posted by hippybear at 7:36 PM on April 4, 2019
posted by hippybear at 7:36 PM on April 4, 2019
Ugh. I completely disagree with their choice of "Best Kill" for Bronn, and the writer appears to be unaware of the animosity between Jeremy Flynn and Lena Headey.
posted by hanov3r at 11:16 AM on April 5, 2019
posted by hanov3r at 11:16 AM on April 5, 2019
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