$99- $50=$49
June 7, 2005 6:36 PM Subscribe
Ipod class action settlement $25 cash, or $50 (itunes forbidden) macdollars, also the official Apple settlement page.
A settlement that pays HALF the cost of an Ipod battery? Brilliant! :D
posted by BoringPostcards at 8:07 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by BoringPostcards at 8:07 PM on June 7, 2005
Also ... San Francisco-based law firm Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo (one of the leading law firms involved) has posted a class notice, etc. on its on its Web site regarding the settlement.
posted by ericb at 8:20 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by ericb at 8:20 PM on June 7, 2005
Thanks!
posted by AlexReynolds at 8:41 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by AlexReynolds at 8:41 PM on June 7, 2005
Plaintiffs' counsel will apply for attorneys' fees and expenses in an amount not to exceed $2,768,000.00.
Enjoy your $50.
posted by Kwantsar at 8:52 PM on June 7, 2005
Enjoy your $50.
posted by Kwantsar at 8:52 PM on June 7, 2005
I got one in the mail yesterday. It made me wonder, why exclude iTunes from the rebate, when that's exactly what iPod users would be most likely to spend the credit on? (Hey, i just answered my own question!)
posted by brain_drain at 9:03 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by brain_drain at 9:03 PM on June 7, 2005
I don't think I'm going to mess with the settlement. I've had my iPod for a year and half and I still get at least 6 hours of continuous play.
Also, I'm lazy.
posted by handshake at 9:11 PM on June 7, 2005
Also, I'm lazy.
posted by handshake at 9:11 PM on June 7, 2005
Exactly. As I read it, the settlement kicks in if you can document premature battery failure. Or am I missing something?
posted by herc at 9:32 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by herc at 9:32 PM on June 7, 2005
Enjoy your $50.
I think that will just about cover the $40+shipping I paid for a replacement battery, Kwantsar. Even then, that is $50 I have to spend on another Apple product. So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say.
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:43 PM on June 7, 2005
I think that will just about cover the $40+shipping I paid for a replacement battery, Kwantsar. Even then, that is $50 I have to spend on another Apple product. So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say.
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:43 PM on June 7, 2005
So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say.
Oh, dear.
posted by Kwantsar at 10:04 PM on June 7, 2005
Oh, dear.
posted by Kwantsar at 10:04 PM on June 7, 2005
well you could have spent your money on an equally good mp3 player that isn't a piece of shit with battery failure.
hows that?
posted by puke & cry at 10:12 PM on June 7, 2005
hows that?
posted by puke & cry at 10:12 PM on June 7, 2005
Alex, that was a little harsh. Kwantsar has a valid point.
posted by vaportrail at 10:16 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by vaportrail at 10:16 PM on June 7, 2005
If I was getting one, I'd invest it in Intel stock, or maybe AMD stock. One or the other.
posted by drezdn at 10:21 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by drezdn at 10:21 PM on June 7, 2005
Kwantsar has a valid point.
What's his point? Attorney fees have nothing to do with the guilt he thinks I should feel for the refund I both deserve and will receive. Perhaps Kwantsar should take a page from the right-winger's bible and GHOFB, if he has a problem with how much lawyers get paid.
posted by AlexReynolds at 10:26 PM on June 7, 2005
What's his point? Attorney fees have nothing to do with the guilt he thinks I should feel for the refund I both deserve and will receive. Perhaps Kwantsar should take a page from the right-winger's bible and GHOFB, if he has a problem with how much lawyers get paid.
posted by AlexReynolds at 10:26 PM on June 7, 2005
What's his point?
That you get a lousy fifty bucks while the attorneys walk away with a cool two million plus? Where does he suggest that you should feel guilty for your pittance?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 10:44 PM on June 7, 2005
That you get a lousy fifty bucks while the attorneys walk away with a cool two million plus? Where does he suggest that you should feel guilty for your pittance?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 10:44 PM on June 7, 2005
So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say.
posted by angry modem at 10:44 PM on June 7, 2005
posted by angry modem at 10:44 PM on June 7, 2005
Wow Alex... Easy there.
I think Kwantsar was just making an interesting point. Not much to woohoo about on $50 when a group of lawyers are the ones really making out.
Then again... my Creative Zen gets great battery life and has for years now. So I'm clear either way...
MetaBitter, MetaAnger, MetaIgnorance...
posted by AspectRatio at 10:47 PM on June 7, 2005
I think Kwantsar was just making an interesting point. Not much to woohoo about on $50 when a group of lawyers are the ones really making out.
Then again... my Creative Zen gets great battery life and has for years now. So I'm clear either way...
MetaBitter, MetaAnger, MetaIgnorance...
posted by AspectRatio at 10:47 PM on June 7, 2005
This settlement is better for class members than many others. $25 or $50 actually gives you something of value, while many settlements distribute junk coupons worth $5-10 that never get used. As for the attorneys' fees, class members in the aggregate are getting many milllions of dollars, much more than the attorneys. And the class members don't have to do anything but fill out a form, while the attorneys probably worked hard on this case.
That all said, I still think the credits should be usable towards iTunes.
posted by brain_drain at 11:18 PM on June 7, 2005
That all said, I still think the credits should be usable towards iTunes.
posted by brain_drain at 11:18 PM on June 7, 2005
MetaBitter - too funny.
iriver 40gb. 18 continuous hours of battery life when i bought it, and 18 hours of battery life now, a year of solid (many hours a day) listening later. and it's black.
it didn't have an iCampaign to promote it though, nor an iMirror on the back to do your hair, so perhaps it passed a lot of people by. such a pity. iWon.
posted by soi-disant at 11:18 PM on June 7, 2005
iriver 40gb. 18 continuous hours of battery life when i bought it, and 18 hours of battery life now, a year of solid (many hours a day) listening later. and it's black.
it didn't have an iCampaign to promote it though, nor an iMirror on the back to do your hair, so perhaps it passed a lot of people by. such a pity. iWon.
posted by soi-disant at 11:18 PM on June 7, 2005
I just bought my wife an iriver mp3 player with a gig of flash memory. (45 hours?) ($187) (no harddrive skipping)
Uses a single AA battery for 37 hours of play.
It might go down later, but damn, I think you ipod guys got suckered.
posted by Balisong at 12:08 AM on June 8, 2005
Uses a single AA battery for 37 hours of play.
It might go down later, but damn, I think you ipod guys got suckered.
posted by Balisong at 12:08 AM on June 8, 2005
I got a form in the mail last week, though I'm not sure why, as the settlement doesn't seem to apply to iPod mini at all.
posted by kjh at 1:33 AM on June 8, 2005
posted by kjh at 1:33 AM on June 8, 2005
"I think you ipod guys got suckered."
My sentiments, exactly.
posted by acrobat at 6:15 AM on June 8, 2005
My sentiments, exactly.
posted by acrobat at 6:15 AM on June 8, 2005
AlexReynolds is absolutely right. If it wasn't for the lawyers and their understandable $2,768,000.00 fee you wouldn't be getting a penny in the first place, so please to be shutting the mouth until you have something reasonable to add to the discussion.
posted by moift at 6:15 AM on June 8, 2005
posted by moift at 6:15 AM on June 8, 2005
Kwanstar, your class warfare is really rusty. Ten hail Krugmans and a $5 donation to the International Brotherhood of Teamsters should do the trick :)
posted by Ptrin at 6:19 AM on June 8, 2005
posted by Ptrin at 6:19 AM on June 8, 2005
Could we already stop the cheap shots at "what a shitty product" the iPod is compared to whatever's apparently superior? The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of devices that use the same type of battery as the iPod and there's a similar failure/discharge rate among many of them. For every hundred iPod users complaining about shortened battery life, there's possibly one user of a Creative or iRiver device with the same complaint. It's an economy of scale.
posted by mikeh at 6:34 AM on June 8, 2005
posted by mikeh at 6:34 AM on June 8, 2005
soi-disant: "iriver 40gb. 18 continuous hours of battery life when i bought it, and 18 hours of battery life now.... iWon." Perhaps, soi, but this reminds me of something that happened to me on the subway the other day...
(Fade in. - R. Mutt on the nyc subway, quietly listening to an mp3 of the Latin Mass on his Ipod. The beautiful young woman sitting next to him places her hand on his shoulder - interrupting his thoughts...)
Young woman: "Excuse me, but is that a first generation Ipod?"
Mutt: "Why yes, yes it is."
YW:"oooh, that is sooo cool, regardless of battery life - battery life wonks are so nerdy."
Mutt: "Yes , I know."
YW: "I'm sorry, (offers hand) my name is Heather, and this is my identical twin sister Amber... she is a Harvard educated sexpert."
Mutt: "Well, that would explain the multiple bags of sex toys you have there..."
YW: "Yes, we are moving them to our new brownstone - our parents bought it for us- they are class action lawyers. Would you like to move in with us, rent free?"
Mutt: "Sure! Good thing I bought this bottle of wine with the $25 cash option from the Ipod settlement! Lets celebrate!"
All: "Yea!"
posted by R. Mutt at 6:46 AM on June 8, 2005
(Fade in. - R. Mutt on the nyc subway, quietly listening to an mp3 of the Latin Mass on his Ipod. The beautiful young woman sitting next to him places her hand on his shoulder - interrupting his thoughts...)
Young woman: "Excuse me, but is that a first generation Ipod?"
Mutt: "Why yes, yes it is."
YW:"oooh, that is sooo cool, regardless of battery life - battery life wonks are so nerdy."
Mutt: "Yes , I know."
YW: "I'm sorry, (offers hand) my name is Heather, and this is my identical twin sister Amber... she is a Harvard educated sexpert."
Mutt: "Well, that would explain the multiple bags of sex toys you have there..."
YW: "Yes, we are moving them to our new brownstone - our parents bought it for us- they are class action lawyers. Would you like to move in with us, rent free?"
Mutt: "Sure! Good thing I bought this bottle of wine with the $25 cash option from the Ipod settlement! Lets celebrate!"
All: "Yea!"
posted by R. Mutt at 6:46 AM on June 8, 2005
"So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say."
...
"so please to be shutting the mouth until you have something reasonable to add to the discussion."
...
I wonder how long it will be before MetaFilter turns into Kuro5hin.org
posted by haasim at 6:59 AM on June 8, 2005
...
"so please to be shutting the mouth until you have something reasonable to add to the discussion."
...
I wonder how long it will be before MetaFilter turns into Kuro5hin.org
posted by haasim at 6:59 AM on June 8, 2005
soi-disant : "it didn't have an iCampaign to promote it though, nor an iMirror on the back to do your hair, so perhaps it passed a lot of people by. such a pity. iWon."
The iRivers are nice, but they don't have the i60 GB that I needed. Plus, I don't know anyone working at Creative or iRiver, so I couldn't get the i25% discount I got on my iPod.
None of which is to argue that iPod is in any way better. It's just that different folks look for different things (I wanted jog dial based control and a relatively small size (1.8 inch hard disk or smaller)), and for some, iPod matches those better than other makers, and for some, iPod matches them worse than other makers.
Most people don't need insulin, but not everyone who buys insulin is an idiot; some are diabetics.
posted by Bugbread at 7:18 AM on June 8, 2005
The iRivers are nice, but they don't have the i60 GB that I needed. Plus, I don't know anyone working at Creative or iRiver, so I couldn't get the i25% discount I got on my iPod.
None of which is to argue that iPod is in any way better. It's just that different folks look for different things (I wanted jog dial based control and a relatively small size (1.8 inch hard disk or smaller)), and for some, iPod matches those better than other makers, and for some, iPod matches them worse than other makers.
Most people don't need insulin, but not everyone who buys insulin is an idiot; some are diabetics.
posted by Bugbread at 7:18 AM on June 8, 2005
Us non-americans with failed ipod batteries are left in the cold...
posted by kika at 7:37 AM on June 8, 2005
posted by kika at 7:37 AM on June 8, 2005
you've made the evening of this battery life wonk, Mutt. cheers.
i can only hope for your sake that the identitwins, and the aforementioned bags of toys, weren't too, um, hard on you for the eighteen continuous hours in question.
or that they were too hard, and you'll be needing some help. i like wine a lot, and i'm a keen learner.
on preview: hey bugbread, stop that. you're being far too rational and balanced, and totally ruining my sixhoursago halfpissed attempt at a snark.
and if you're so logical - what am i supposed to do with all these large boxes of insulin stacked up and cluttering my bedroom?
posted by soi-disant at 7:38 AM on June 8, 2005
i can only hope for your sake that the identitwins, and the aforementioned bags of toys, weren't too, um, hard on you for the eighteen continuous hours in question.
or that they were too hard, and you'll be needing some help. i like wine a lot, and i'm a keen learner.
on preview: hey bugbread, stop that. you're being far too rational and balanced, and totally ruining my sixhoursago halfpissed attempt at a snark.
and if you're so logical - what am i supposed to do with all these large boxes of insulin stacked up and cluttering my bedroom?
posted by soi-disant at 7:38 AM on June 8, 2005
well you could have spent your money on an equally good mp3 player that isn't a piece of shit with battery failure.
Okay, point one out to me. It's very important to me that I have just ONE mp3 player (I don't want to be bogged down with too many devices). I need at least 40GB capacity (I've already 3/4th filled that on my iPod). And I need something that plays books from audible.com (and keeps my place in when I turn it off) as-well-as mp3s. It also needs to be easy to operate in bed, via a remote, so that I don't disturb my wife while she's sleeping.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic. The iPod is the only device I've found that does all these things. If you can point me to another device -- and one without the battery issues -- I'll buy it.
The big issue is audible.com. I may have somewhat obscure needs, but I do know that there are a ton of people who listen to both music and audible books. As far as I know, we have no other alternative, unless we want to carry two players around with us all the time -- or go to a smaller storage capacity.
posted by grumblebee at 7:39 AM on June 8, 2005
Okay, point one out to me. It's very important to me that I have just ONE mp3 player (I don't want to be bogged down with too many devices). I need at least 40GB capacity (I've already 3/4th filled that on my iPod). And I need something that plays books from audible.com (and keeps my place in when I turn it off) as-well-as mp3s. It also needs to be easy to operate in bed, via a remote, so that I don't disturb my wife while she's sleeping.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic. The iPod is the only device I've found that does all these things. If you can point me to another device -- and one without the battery issues -- I'll buy it.
The big issue is audible.com. I may have somewhat obscure needs, but I do know that there are a ton of people who listen to both music and audible books. As far as I know, we have no other alternative, unless we want to carry two players around with us all the time -- or go to a smaller storage capacity.
posted by grumblebee at 7:39 AM on June 8, 2005
oh, and bugbread and grumblebee - we all know that 40 or 60 gigs isn't anywhere near enough storage.
mine's full, and it's inevitably the tracks left at home that i want to listen to whilst out.
wake me when the terabyte players come out.
posted by soi-disant at 7:52 AM on June 8, 2005
mine's full, and it's inevitably the tracks left at home that i want to listen to whilst out.
wake me when the terabyte players come out.
posted by soi-disant at 7:52 AM on June 8, 2005
soi-disant : "we all know that 40 or 60 gigs isn't anywhere near enough storage."
I'm at 57 right now. Pushing...the...envelope.
posted by Bugbread at 8:04 AM on June 8, 2005
I'm at 57 right now. Pushing...the...envelope.
posted by Bugbread at 8:04 AM on June 8, 2005
...>>why exclude iTunes from the rebate, when that's exactly what iPod users would be most likely to spend the credit on?
You're falsely assuming that the collective ipod consumers fancy mainstream and accessible music. That is just not the case: the opera and orchestra selections suck ass, therefore making itunes (for me and many others) overwhelmingly inadequate.
posted by naxosaxur at 8:37 AM on June 8, 2005
You're falsely assuming that the collective ipod consumers fancy mainstream and accessible music. That is just not the case: the opera and orchestra selections suck ass, therefore making itunes (for me and many others) overwhelmingly inadequate.
posted by naxosaxur at 8:37 AM on June 8, 2005
My MP3 player takes a single AA batter, and plays for at least 24 hours on it.
Apple's non-replaceable batter is a design flaw.
posted by delmoi at 9:31 AM on June 8, 2005
Apple's non-replaceable batter is a design flaw.
posted by delmoi at 9:31 AM on June 8, 2005
delmoi : "My MP3 player takes a single AA batter, and plays for at least 24 hours on it. "
Sure. A hard disk based player that gets 24 hours off a single AA battery. Mind telling us the model name?
(Somehow I'm suspecting the answer is "I never said it was hard disk based", which would make the comparison as viable as "The Boeing Jumbo jet requires gallons of gasoline. My vehicle can be powered with carrots!" ("It's a donkey"). If not, I'll be very surprised and possibly in the market for the new wonderplayer)
posted by Bugbread at 10:32 AM on June 8, 2005
Sure. A hard disk based player that gets 24 hours off a single AA battery. Mind telling us the model name?
(Somehow I'm suspecting the answer is "I never said it was hard disk based", which would make the comparison as viable as "The Boeing Jumbo jet requires gallons of gasoline. My vehicle can be powered with carrots!" ("It's a donkey"). If not, I'll be very surprised and possibly in the market for the new wonderplayer)
posted by Bugbread at 10:32 AM on June 8, 2005
Us non-americans with failed ipod batteries are left in the cold...
Can't you guys do class-action suits too? This only happened because people got together and got a lawyer (or 2 or 200). And the success of this one should bode well for success everywhere they were sold.
posted by amberglow at 10:38 AM on June 8, 2005
Can't you guys do class-action suits too? This only happened because people got together and got a lawyer (or 2 or 200). And the success of this one should bode well for success everywhere they were sold.
posted by amberglow at 10:38 AM on June 8, 2005
I have a first-gen 10GB iPod, it still works fine. I think the battery is down to 4 hours as opposed to the original 8, but usually I'm listening to it at work, where I'm at a desk with a power outlet, so I just plug it in. So it's not broken for me, even if it's aging a bit.
I spose I should get a bigger one...
posted by zoogleplex at 10:57 AM on June 8, 2005
I spose I should get a bigger one...
posted by zoogleplex at 10:57 AM on June 8, 2005
brain_drain writes "And the class members don't have to do anything but fill out a form"
Discounting the initial bend over they got from Apple.
R. Mutt what's your secret? I never get the twins.
posted by Mitheral at 12:41 PM on June 8, 2005
Discounting the initial bend over they got from Apple.
R. Mutt what's your secret? I never get the twins.
posted by Mitheral at 12:41 PM on June 8, 2005
So shut up, already, unless you have something intelligent to say.
Apple products suck, and the iPod sucks even worse.
Enjoy your $50, suckers.
we all know that 40 or 60 gigs isn't anywhere near enough storage
That's ridiculous, unless you're transferring multi-gb files or only convert music files to WAVs or something. If you're using it for digital audio, it's ridiculous. 40GB is, what, about 600 hours of music?
You'll always run out of space, no matter how big the drive is. Why do you need to carry around your entire library with you at all times? It's impossible. It grows and grows and grows (especially now that so much digital music is available for free).
You can transfer music on and off of your portable player, you know.
posted by mrgrimm at 2:19 PM on June 8, 2005
Apple products suck, and the iPod sucks even worse.
Enjoy your $50, suckers.
we all know that 40 or 60 gigs isn't anywhere near enough storage
That's ridiculous, unless you're transferring multi-gb files or only convert music files to WAVs or something. If you're using it for digital audio, it's ridiculous. 40GB is, what, about 600 hours of music?
You'll always run out of space, no matter how big the drive is. Why do you need to carry around your entire library with you at all times? It's impossible. It grows and grows and grows (especially now that so much digital music is available for free).
You can transfer music on and off of your portable player, you know.
posted by mrgrimm at 2:19 PM on June 8, 2005
mrgrimm : "Why do you need to carry around your entire library with you at all times? It's impossible."
I've got a 60GB iPod. It has all my music (though barely). Therefore, de facto, 40GB is not ridiculous for me, yet having all my music is possible.
I don't "need" to carry all my music around. I don't "need" to listen to music, for that matter. I don't need a TV. I don't need hot water. I don't really need electricity, except at work. I don't need about 95% of the stuff in my life.
I want to carry all my music around. I want to never, ever, ever have to bother transferring my music on and off my player. I want, when a band comes up in conversation with a friend, to say, "here, listen to this". I want to be sitting at my computer at work, reading something on MeFi or the like, where someone says "have you noticed that the melody to song A and song B are the same?" to be able to listen myself, not write a note so that I can remember to listen later. It's all wants, not needs.
You may not have the same wants. That's cool. But wanting something different than you doesn't make me a sucker. Maybe you want a new car. I don't. I don't think you're a sucker for it. Maybe I want to take a trip to Korea, and you don't. That doesn't make me a sucker.
posted by Bugbread at 2:40 PM on June 8, 2005
I've got a 60GB iPod. It has all my music (though barely). Therefore, de facto, 40GB is not ridiculous for me, yet having all my music is possible.
I don't "need" to carry all my music around. I don't "need" to listen to music, for that matter. I don't need a TV. I don't need hot water. I don't really need electricity, except at work. I don't need about 95% of the stuff in my life.
I want to carry all my music around. I want to never, ever, ever have to bother transferring my music on and off my player. I want, when a band comes up in conversation with a friend, to say, "here, listen to this". I want to be sitting at my computer at work, reading something on MeFi or the like, where someone says "have you noticed that the melody to song A and song B are the same?" to be able to listen myself, not write a note so that I can remember to listen later. It's all wants, not needs.
You may not have the same wants. That's cool. But wanting something different than you doesn't make me a sucker. Maybe you want a new car. I don't. I don't think you're a sucker for it. Maybe I want to take a trip to Korea, and you don't. That doesn't make me a sucker.
posted by Bugbread at 2:40 PM on June 8, 2005
Why do you need to carry around your entire library with you at all times?
Because I never know what song I'll want to listen to at any point in time. I like having all of my music with me so that as the mood strikes, I can listen to whatever I feel like hearing.
If you're transfering music on and off your portable player, then you have to be thinking ahead and eliminating choices every single time you leave the house. Who's going to do that? Not me.
posted by willnot at 2:48 PM on June 8, 2005
Because I never know what song I'll want to listen to at any point in time. I like having all of my music with me so that as the mood strikes, I can listen to whatever I feel like hearing.
If you're transfering music on and off your portable player, then you have to be thinking ahead and eliminating choices every single time you leave the house. Who's going to do that? Not me.
posted by willnot at 2:48 PM on June 8, 2005
Transferring a goodly portion of my music choices back and forth a time or two on my iRiver ifp-899 isn't that big of a deal.
It probably pays for itself by knowing the limit, and "inconveniencing" myself by taking off stuff I've heard, etc., than the frustration of realising that the product I bought has a battery problem that has to go to court for a settlement, and rather than fix the problem, flicks me $25.
Sometimes, having all the features isn't such a great deal if there are other problems.
posted by Balisong at 3:35 PM on June 8, 2005
It probably pays for itself by knowing the limit, and "inconveniencing" myself by taking off stuff I've heard, etc., than the frustration of realising that the product I bought has a battery problem that has to go to court for a settlement, and rather than fix the problem, flicks me $25.
Sometimes, having all the features isn't such a great deal if there are other problems.
posted by Balisong at 3:35 PM on June 8, 2005
True, and I feel bad for the people with the older generation iPods. They got screwed. But some people have this weird perception that 2 hour battery life is somehow endemic to all iPods. Mine is an iPod photo. Since it has a color screen, which is intended to be used for frequent viewing (as opposed to music only iPods whose screens are really only used when picking songs), they had to beef up the battery to allow the photo feature to be used. Of course, I didn't get it for the photos, I got it for the large hard disk size, meaning that I've got an iPod with maybe a 10 hour charge (haven't timed it). Not amazing, by any stretch of the imagination, but just as you are saved the frustration of realizing the product you bought has a battery problem that has to go to court for a settlement, I'm also saved the frustration of realizing the product I bought has a battery problem that has to go to court for a settlement.
So far, the only problem I have (er, well, potential, because I haven't faced it yet) is that I'd need to buy an extra accessory to use batteries to operate it if I go on a long trip where I plan to listen to music for more than 10 hours without having a plug handy. And that is a drawback, but it's a potential drawback, whereas putting music on and off the player is a drawback which, albeit small, I would immediately have if I had a smaller-than-60GB player. So, in my situation, the choice is:
Player A, which has no immediate drawbacks, but a potential but small drawback, or
Player B, which has an immediate but small drawback, but no potential drawbacks
I hope you can understand that, for me, in my case (not anyone else), it just wouldn't make a lot of sense to get a unit with a definite but small drawback instead of a unit with a potential but small drawback. And I understand that, for you, it may be the other way around.
posted by Bugbread at 5:02 PM on June 8, 2005
So far, the only problem I have (er, well, potential, because I haven't faced it yet) is that I'd need to buy an extra accessory to use batteries to operate it if I go on a long trip where I plan to listen to music for more than 10 hours without having a plug handy. And that is a drawback, but it's a potential drawback, whereas putting music on and off the player is a drawback which, albeit small, I would immediately have if I had a smaller-than-60GB player. So, in my situation, the choice is:
Player A, which has no immediate drawbacks, but a potential but small drawback, or
Player B, which has an immediate but small drawback, but no potential drawbacks
I hope you can understand that, for me, in my case (not anyone else), it just wouldn't make a lot of sense to get a unit with a definite but small drawback instead of a unit with a potential but small drawback. And I understand that, for you, it may be the other way around.
posted by Bugbread at 5:02 PM on June 8, 2005
Helpful hint: I paid $12, including shipping, for a replacement first-generation ipod battery on ebay in 2003, and that battery is still working nicely (about 8 hours on a charge). It even came with the vinyl case-cracking tools; easy to do, didn't leave a scratch.
Batteries are only expensive if you buy them from brand name companies...
posted by dmd at 8:54 PM on June 8, 2005
Batteries are only expensive if you buy them from brand name companies...
posted by dmd at 8:54 PM on June 8, 2005
This is okay, I've known multiple people who have had issues with the iPod. At least Apple has acknowledged it.
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