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Cavemen demand fair treatment!

Delete 'em all, let god sort them out.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 11:00 AM on September 19, 2007

Tag format

Another vote for the quotes.

Would this be crazy? Since people often enter compound words as camel case you could also split tags on the capitalised letters...

...Except, of course, when the cpaitalised letters are meant to be there. I guess in that case people could throw quotes around the word as well... except then they'd forget to do it...

gah.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 4:25 PM on April 30, 2007

Too much tragedy for one thread

Strongly against.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 11:34 AM on April 16, 2007

I'm sorry, but hiding comments re:gun control on metatalk as if they are something to be ashamed of is a bullshit choice.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 11:48 AM on April 16, 2007

cortex - Really? because from where I sit it seems like a tacit endorsement of the position shooting not being a gun control issue, and that anyone who argues that it is is being impolite and should be hurried off to the grey, where no-one looks.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 11:56 AM on April 16, 2007

I appreciatwe your reasoning, but it still seems a lot like a ban on general discussion of gun control to me. You may not want it to be, but you've established a precedent here.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:05 PM on April 16, 2007

It's about preventing the thread from being derailed.

Exactly - it's an endorsement of the position that any discussion of gun control is a derailing. Which is very odd given that no widely available firearms would equal no shooting and therefore no thread at all.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:17 PM on April 16, 2007

No, making comments re:gun control under these circumstances, as the facts come slowly in-- which may actually be something to be ashamed of-- is the actual bullshit choice.

Why?

Please expand on your argument that discussing gun control after a shooting is bullshit, and your cryptic commets about "facts" coming in (I have half an idea where you are going with that, but I'd like to hear it).
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:34 PM on April 16, 2007

I think the departed have other things to worry about than whether the means of their dispatch is being discussed on metafilter.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:44 PM on April 16, 2007

If y'all want to talk about it so goddamn much, then Why Aren't You?

Because hiding the discussion here was itself a derailing move?
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:46 PM on April 16, 2007

hermitosis - maybe metafilter shouldn't have comments at all?
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:49 PM on April 16, 2007

Bullfuckingshit. Put up or shut up.

Backatcha. Loudly condemming a subject of debate and then shiting it to the grey is more likely to produce an argument over the move than the original subject. That's just how it is. Put up or shut up.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 12:54 PM on April 16, 2007

bugbread - cause and effect.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 1:04 PM on April 16, 2007

phaedon - so baiscally we shouldn't discuss how easy access to firearms in american society leads to murder/suicide sprees that would be otherwise unlikely to happen on the off-chance the guy was using the super-shotgun from quake? Riiiight.

I'm getting the clear sense that some of you were hoping he was using that weapon just so you could make this argument...
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 1:46 PM on April 16, 2007

You are putting together a good "Gun control: yea or nay?" post, right?

That wouldn't actually be within MeFis guidelines.

Actually if this was happening on another well-trafficed blog/discussion site I might consider posting the two threads in a post a thread about how discussion of gun control got supressed, but I beleive that would be a double.

And probably a bit of a shit thread as well.… [more]
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 1:57 PM on April 16, 2007

Also regarding cultural factors, it's worth pointing out the murder/suicide sprees (the guy at the UW, with a modest bodycount of 1 victim + self, but still very much in the workplace/school slayings category) was actually a British ex-pat.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:04 PM on April 16, 2007

bugbread - blame Bush.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:05 PM on April 16, 2007

That discsussion of gun control is verbotten in America seems like one of them.

You're still not getting this? What does it take?

So, asides from Metafilter, do you not find that gun control being a hot button issue in America is kind of interesting? If it were any other kind of safety issue the newsmedia and politicians would be all over the pro and anti ban debate, but on guns everyone desperately tries to change the subject.… [more]
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:22 PM on April 16, 2007

bugbread - you're right. Please insert whatever the correct phrase for "greivous shit-pit that anyone who wants to retain ratings/get re-elected stays the hell away from" is.

Phaedon - ?
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:30 PM on April 16, 2007

Ethereal - Nice fence sitting say-nothing spin from Dana there.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:35 PM on April 16, 2007

The "...but that all laws must be followed" bit is there to soften it out. It's a basicly a pro-status quo position without much other content.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:52 PM on April 16, 2007

Nice dogpile guys. I'll leave you be.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:54 PM on April 16, 2007

I know this is bad to say, but I'm really glad it wasn't a Muslim. That would have really been a disaster.

That's already happened. Twice, if you count the Washington snipers (though they seem to me to be a different kind of nut).

TBH the media coverage wasn't nearly as stupid and racist as I would have expected, though predictably any suggestion that not giving guns to crazy people might be a good idea was backgrounded.

[/resumes silence]
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 3:53 PM on April 16, 2007

Which may explain why the like of qonsar or Artw and a few others try desperately to exert some kind of power by crapping in this thread and on the mods (who, for them, represent power).

Oh dear, decloaking again. Probably this is going to get me doused in petrol and burnt, but I really felt I should respond.

With respect, get bent.

I thought that moving the debat to this thread was a bad idea, and to… [more]
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 5:47 PM on April 16, 2007

OmieWise- except it was when I was discussing the subject that people really started jumping up and down on me.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 6:14 PM on April 16, 2007

And as for where I stand - well, the workplace/school murder/suicide seems to be largely an American issue. Both the ready availabilty of firearms (particularly handguns) and the culture that surrounds them seem to be a cause. That "gun control seems to haver become adrity word with some people is part of that culture.

Could you enact some kind of ban? Doubtful. It seems that proposing even minor restrictions on gun ownership raises hell, and they're not really… [more]
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 6:27 PM on April 16, 2007

Only at rainbow parties.

Are we sure he's not just bragging?
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 10:50 PM on April 11, 2007

I'd heard it was more like GURPS now.

I think I read that in a parody of a Jack Chick comic.
posted to MetaTalk by Artw at 2:24 PM on April 13, 2007